PM Boris forms a government

Originally Posted by Angua

Of those only Rory Stewart seems potentially able to unite the party. Amber Rudd has already withdrawn.

I quite like Stewart. He seems competent, serious and has a decent personal history. I don't think he would unite the party though and having not had one of the big jobs it's hard to know how he would do as the leader.

I like Gove. He has a reputation for being talented, smart and effective. He is a Leaver too. It's only his steadfast support for the Withdrawal agreement that would do him in but the Tories want to win elections I think he would be a good choice for them.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by denphone

But they are already deeply damaged and until the make their way back to the middle ground of politics they will never get a overall majority again as hung parliaments and coalitions will dominate British politics for the foreseeable future.

You underestimate how many members of the public actually want Brexit to happen. We need a Brexiteer in charge who understands the benefits of leaving the EU.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

You underestimate how many members of the public actually want Brexit to happen. We need a Brexiteer in charge who understands the benefits of leaving the EU.

l don't underestimate how many number wanted Brexit as it is 17,410,742 million last time l looked and there are 46,148,000 million people eligible to vote so do the maths as political history tells you any party that ventures too far to the right or to the left will not command a overall majority , That's a fact whether you like it or not..

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by denphone

l don't underestimate how many number wanted Brexit as it is 17,410,742 million last time l looked and there are 46,148,000 million people eligible to vote so do the maths as political history tells you any party that ventures too far to the right or to the left will not command a overall majority , That's a fact whether you like it or not..

I don't call Brexit a move to the right! It's all about exercising the right to determine our own destiny.

The electorate voted for it, and their will should be accepted. This is a democracy, after all, and a promise is a promise.

[jfman]

But we don’t want to ask them again, because with new information we think they may have changed their mind.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by denphone

But they are already deeply damaged and until the make their way back to the middle ground of politics they will never get a overall majority again as hung parliaments and coalitions will dominate British politics for the foreseeable future.

You underestimate the popularity of Boris Johnson with the public.

Uncanny, I know, but it is there.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I don't call Brexit a move to the right! It's all about exercising the right to determine our own destiny.

The electorate voted for it, and their will should be accepted. This is a democracy, after all, and a promise is a promise.

l am talking about the Conservative party as they have always done well when they have appealed to a broad church of voters and if they go way from that they will find that some of their voting base will disintegrate.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

You underestimate the popularity of Boris Johnson with the public.

Uncanny, I know, but it is there.

Rubbish as appealing to Conservative party members does not equate itself with being popular with a large part of the voting public as they know what a mendacious fraudulent charlatan he is....

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Damien

I quite like Stewart. He seems competent, serious and has a decent personal history. I don't think he would unite the party though and having not had one of the big jobs it's hard to know how he would do as the leader.

I like Gove. He has a reputation for being talented, smart and effective. He is a Leaver too. It's only his steadfast support for the Withdrawal agreement that would do him in but the Tories want to win elections I think he would be a good choice for them.

Afraid you have a very low quality threshold Damien.... Personally I'd go for Larry, the Downing Street cat
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[denphone]

Michael Gove makes his play for the Tory leadership.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48411784

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...jeremy-corbyn/

[ianch99]

I agree with Damien that Rory Stewart is the only decent choice. After what Gove did to Teaching (and to Boris), he does not make the grade.

The problem is that decency is not longer the required characteristic for this job ..

[denphone]

Originally Posted by ianch99

I agree with Damien that Rory Stewart is the only decent choice. After what Gove did to Teaching (and to Boris), he does not make the grade.

The problem is that decency is not longer the required characteristic for this job ..

Gove is a repeatable backstabber , Can a man like that really be trusted?.

[Ken W]

Originally Posted by denphone

Gove is a repeatable backstabber , Can a man like that really be trusted?.

I agree

[papa smurf]

Esther Mcvey just hit the nail on the head,on the Sophie Ridge show

"We must pick a side and that side is the one that won the referendum
We must leave at the end of october deal or no deal "

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by jfman

But we don’t want to ask them again, because with new information we think they may have changed their mind.

Except they haven't.

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

Esther Mcvey just hit the nail on the head,on the Sophie Ridge show

"We must pick a side and that side is the one that won the referendum
We must leave at the end of october deal or no deal "

She gets my vote, then (well, if I had one)!

[pip08456]

I reckon Ether would make a good leader, straight talking northern lass even though she is a scouser.