07-05-2019, 21:43
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20mph in Wales.
Speed limits of 20mph could be introduced in all residential areas in Wales
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-48188233
Some areas on the bus route I use often was dropped from 30mph to 20mph. The response from the bus company was to cut buses on that route (and others) from 3 an hour to 2 an hour. They had been at 4 an hour this time last year.
With almost the whole route reducing to 20mph, I wouldn't be surprised if the buses were cut to 1 an hour.
Peak times already see packed buses and people being left behind due to no room available.
And soon the shiny new BBC HQ opens in the city centre. Built upon the old bus station site, and still no new bus station being constructed after many years waiting. And then the new Tax Office building will open almost next door. That's a large number of commuters who are going to get very upset with the city's bonkers transport policies.
Another case of not thinking about the consequences, but just agreeing to green lobbyists' demands.
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07-05-2019, 21:50
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Re: 20mph in Wales.
most side streets in cleethorpes are 20 mph have been for quite some time,no one takes any notice of the limit except me,a police car crashed at over 100 mph on one of them destroying several parked vehicles the driver was giving chase to a stolen car ,never heard another word about it.
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07-05-2019, 22:00
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Re: 20mph in Wales.
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Originally Posted by papa smurf
most side streets in cleethorpes are 20 mph have been for quite some time,no one takes any notice of the limit except me,a police car crashed at over 100 mph on one of them destroying several parked vehicles the driver was giving chase to a stolen car ,never heard another word about it.
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Its the same down here papa but its amazing how many ignore the 20 mph as its 20 mph for a reason yet many drivers just flagrantly ignore it sadly.
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Originally Posted by papa smurf
most side streets in cleethorpes are 20 mph have been for quite some time,no one takes any notice of the limit except me,a police car crashed at over 100 mph on one of them destroying several parked vehicles the driver was giving chase to a stolen car ,never heard another word about it.
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You won't as its brushed under the carpet.
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07-05-2019, 22:11
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Re: 20mph in Wales.
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Originally Posted by Taf
Speed limits of 20mph could be introduced in all residential areas in Wales.
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And this is worthy of debate why? 20mph zones have been around, in England at least, for years........the world hasn’t ended.
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07-05-2019, 22:20
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Re: 20mph in Wales.
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Originally Posted by denphone
Its the same down here papa but its amazing how many ignore the 20 mph as its 20 mph for a reason yet many drivers just flagrantly ignore it sadly.
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You won't as its brushed under the carpet.
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Is it or is that just a myth?
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07-05-2019, 22:25
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Re: 20mph in Wales.
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Originally Posted by Mythica
Is it or is that just a myth?
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If it is classed as residential l am pretty sure its 20 mph and if it is in a built up area l think its 30 mph.
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07-05-2019, 22:33
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Re: 20mph in Wales.
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Originally Posted by denphone
If it is classed as residential l am pretty sure its 20 mph and if it is in a built up area l think its 30 mph.
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I was talking about it being brushed under the carpet.
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07-05-2019, 22:44
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Re: 20mph in Wales.
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Originally Posted by Taf
Another case of not thinking about the consequences, but just agreeing to green lobbyists' demands.
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There is nothing green about it.
Cars doing 20mph as opposed to 30mph are generally less effecient, plus you get the exhaust fumes for 50% longer.
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Originally Posted by Pierre
20mph zones have been around, in England at least, for years........the world hasn’t ended.
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Probably because almost no one pays any attention to them.
We have had them in Nottingham for a few years, Ive never seen anyone actually do 20mph, not even the buses stick to it.
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its amazing how many ignore the 20 mph as its 20 mph for a reason yet many drivers just flagrantly ignore it sadly.
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The only reason is because some muppet decided to impose a new arbitary limit, probably to justify their existance, and spend a fortune in new signs.
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07-05-2019, 23:03
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Re: 20mph in Wales.
We have 20mph areas in my town. But obviously BMWs are exempt.
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07-05-2019, 23:53
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Re: 20mph in Wales.
The only 20 MPH limits around here are by schools.
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08-05-2019, 01:28
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Re: 20mph in Wales.
A better approach is to have 20 where you need it, schools/narrow roads/side streets and 30 where you want the traffic. That way you get safety where you want to slow things down and direct the traffic to wider through roads.
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08-05-2019, 09:47
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Re: 20mph in Wales.
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Originally Posted by Hom3r
We have 20mph areas in my town. But obviously BMWs are exempt.
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Same here i wonder why.
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08-05-2019, 11:08
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Re: 20mph in Wales.
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Originally Posted by tweetiepooh
A better approach is to have 20 where you need it, schools/narrow roads/side streets and 30 where you want the traffic. That way you get safety where you want to slow things down and direct the traffic to wider through roads.
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Even better approach imo is to make it time limited, what's the point of having a twenty limit outside a school at three in the morning
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08-05-2019, 11:16
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Re: 20mph in Wales.
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy
Even better approach imo is to make it time limited, what's the point of having a twenty limit outside a school at three in the morning
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To be fair no one is usually out at 3 in the morning around our schools. 
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08-05-2019, 12:33
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Re: 20mph in Wales.
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Originally Posted by Paul M
There is nothing green about it.
Cars doing 20mph as opposed to 30mph are generally less effecient, plus you get the exhaust fumes for 50% longer.
Probably because almost no one pays any attention to them.
We have had them in Nottingham for a few years, Ive never seen anyone actually do 20mph, not even the buses stick to it.
The only reason is because some muppet decided to impose a new arbitary limit, probably to justify their existance, and spend a fortune in new signs.
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The reason given by the council for making my street a 20 mph zone was children play on the road  they don't if they want to stay alive.
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