Brexit - Page 96

jonbxx · 09-04-2019, 17:40

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Originally Posted by jfman

Under WTO preferred country rules can the USA apply such a tariff only to the EU? Surely if we traded on WTO terms with the USA they’d still apply to us, we’d just be outside the EU.

Yeah, they can as an anti-dumping measure if there is a suspicion that products are being sold at under their real value. I guess in this case, the US are saying that Airbus products should cost more than they do and this is due to state aid.

The EU tried this against Chinese steel a while back and the UK vetoed it, allowing cheap steel in to the EU and undercutting our own steel industry.

Anti dumping tariffs can be disputed at the WTO but this can take years to be resolved..

denphone · 09-04-2019, 17:44

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Apparently the Daily Fail readers comments about the Queen signing the Bill are "interesting", with some calling her a traitor, and others stating that she and her family need to leave the country.

So much for some grown adults behaving in a responsible manner.

papa smurf · 09-04-2019, 17:45

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Originally Posted by jfman

It’s catching:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...bour-live-news

1.53 from Mark Francois

“If you now try to hold on to us against our will, you will be facing Perfidious Albion on speed. It would therefore be much better for all our sakes if we were to pursue our separate destinies, in a spirit of mutual respect.”

Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war;

jfman · 09-04-2019, 18:26

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Originally Posted by jonbxx

Yeah, they can as an anti-dumping measure if there is a suspicion that products are being sold at under their real value. I guess in this case, the US are saying that Airbus products should cost more than they do and this is due to state aid.

The EU tried this against Chinese steel a while back and the UK vetoed it, allowing cheap steel in to the EU and undercutting our own steel industry.

Anti dumping tariffs can be disputed at the WTO but this can take years to be resolved..

And this coincides with two plane crashes involving two Boeing jets?

**Damien** · 09-04-2019, 18:37

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Apparently the Daily Fail readers comments about the Queen signing the Bill are "interesting", with some calling her a traitor, and others stating that she and her family need to leave the country.

Royal Assent is automatic, she was never going to block it I don't understand the obsession with the idea she would.

jfman · 09-04-2019, 18:41

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Originally Posted by Damien

Royal Assent is automatic, she was never going to block it I don't understand the obsession with the idea she would.

Clutching at straws. Brexit is in cardiac arrest here and that was one (albeit unlikely) chance to save it.

nomadking · 09-04-2019, 18:44

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Originally Posted by jfman

Clutching at straws. Brexit is in cardiac arrest here and that was one (albeit unlikely) chance to save it.

Brexit has been euthanised, there has been no attempt to rescue it in any form.

Carth · 09-04-2019, 18:44

Brexit is now in the hands of the EU . . . . . way to go folks

papa smurf · 09-04-2019, 18:51

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Originally Posted by Damien

Royal Assent is automatic, she was never going to block it I don't understand the obsession with the idea she would.

She didn't sign it herself she had one of her minions do it , probably kevin

**Mick** · 09-04-2019, 19:06

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Originally Posted by Damien

Royal Assent is automatic, she was never going to block it I don't understand the obsession with the idea she would.

Had her government advised her to, she certainly could have, she would not have acted on her own volition, the government said yesterday, they wouldn't advise against Royal Assent.

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While Remainers feel rejuvenated with this completely pointless law, that doesn't actually stop "No deal". They should be very worried that a new precedent was set yesterday. Backbench MPs private members Bill, was rushed through both houses, skipping absolute proper scrutiny and then passed in to law, that can now mean serious implications in the future and that it doesn't matter who the government of the day is, when we have wannabe MPs, trying to be defacto Governments for the day. It is totally Bad for Britain.

jfman · 09-04-2019, 19:23

It’s bad to have a hapless Government, propped up by Northern Ireland. She should do the decent thing and go, have a general election and give us a government that can govern.

papa smurf · 09-04-2019, 19:34

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Originally Posted by Mick

Had her government advised her to, she certainly could have, she would not have acted on her own volition, the government said yesterday, they wouldn't advise against Royal Assent.

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While Remainers feel rejuvenated with this completely pointless law, that doesn't actually stop "No deal". They should be very worried that a new precedent was set yesterday. Backbench MPs private members Bill, was rushed through both houses, skipping absolute proper scrutiny and then passed in to law, that can now mean serious implications in the future and that it doesn't matter who the government of the day is, when we have wannabe MPs, trying to be defacto Governments for the day. It is totally Bad for Britain.

It's a come back and bit you in the arse bit of legislation.

**Mick** · 09-04-2019, 19:34

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Originally Posted by jfman

It’s bad to have a hapless Government, propped up by Northern Ireland. She should do the decent thing and go, have a general election and give us a government that can govern.

Completely agree. Government gets no sympathy from me. She really bungled it, calling a snap election in 2017 and then failing to get a Majority. But it's been bungle after bungle with her.

jfman · 09-04-2019, 19:45

If May wants to facilitate a "good" Brexit option she should rescind Article 50, stand down as party leader and have the party elect a pro-Brexit leader (which the membership would).

A half decent leader would wipe the floor with Corbyn at an election then (assuming a sizeable majority) trigger A50 all over again towards a no deal on or around 1st October 2021 and for two years be clear that this is the unavoidable destination of Brexit.

Her deal essentially keeps us in until December 2020 anyway and it'd stop the Parliamentary shenanigans. It'd also smoke out the Labour Party policy on Brexit.

papa smurf · 09-04-2019, 19:49

Meanwhile a new candidate or two for the EU elections

‘So many people want me on the ballot!’ Mussolini’s GREAT GRANDSON stands for EU elections

Caio Giulio Cesare Mussolini, 50, is now a candidate in May's European Parliament elections, Italian media reported, adding he is standing with the far-right Brothers of Italy party

It's gona be a humdinger of an election brexit party / UKIP/ Mussolini ......

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...e-brexit-party

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Originally Posted by jfman

If May wants to facilitate a "good" Brexit option she should rescind Article 50, stand down as party leader and have the party elect a pro-Brexit leader (which the membership would).

A half decent leader would wipe the floor with Corbyn at an election then (assuming a sizeable majority) trigger A50 all over again towards a no deal on or around 1st October 2021 and for two years be clear that this is the unavoidable destination of Brexit.

Her deal essentially keeps us in until December 2020 anyway and it'd stop the Parliamentary shenanigans. It'd also smoke out the Labour Party policy on Brexit.

That's not going to happen she's running on pure vanity now.