Brexit - Page 51

jfman · 28-03-2019, 20:35

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Originally Posted by nodrogd

If May 22 comes & goes we will also have to elect MEPs. That’s going to be interesting. If the number of UKIP/Brexit Party MEPs goes up as a result, those wanting a second referendum are going to get very nervous. Not to mention what possible chaos a larger majority of these MEPs will cause in Brussels.

The People’s Vote campaign will be out in force encouraging a pro-EU vote. I think after so many signatures and the march few consider the anti-EU vote to be stronger than the pro-EU vote. You are correct, it’ll be interesting, and the final nail in the coffin of Brexit. 77 people walking down the coast will not sway it.

1andrew1 · 28-03-2019, 21:27

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Originally Posted by nodrogd

If May 22 comes & goes we will also have to elect MEPs. That’s going to be interesting. If the number of UKIP/Brexit Party MEPs goes up as a result, those wanting a second referendum are going to get very nervous. Not to mention what possible chaos a larger majority of these MEPs will cause in Brussels.

The Brexit Party and also a UKip Party could end up splitting the leave vote and reducing their MEP numbers.

Mr K · 28-03-2019, 22:00

Seems the main Brexiteers (Johnson/Mogg) are now more interested in the Tory leadership than Brexit....
Shallow predictable people...
Respect to those Brexiteers that have stuck to their principles, even if I disagree with them.

**Damien** · 28-03-2019, 22:07

Mogg isn't interested in the leadership, rumour is he is running Johnson's campaign.

1andrew1 · 28-03-2019, 22:07

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Originally Posted by Mr K

Seems the main Brexiteers (Johnson/Mogg) are now more interested in the Tory leadership than Brexit....
Shallow predictable people...
Respect to those Brexiteers that have stuck to their principles, even if I disagree with them.

In fairness to BoJo, he's been consistent - Brexit has always been about him increasing his chance of becoming PM.

Pierre · 28-03-2019, 22:18

https://www.facebook.com/16018652267...923441?sfns=mo

The EU isn’t as unified as it makes out, ok this is one is a MEP in the Parliament not a leader in the Council.

But as this whole sorry mess goes further South, you can expect more of this as other states face up to the impact of buggering about with this.

nomadking · 28-03-2019, 22:21

People keep blaming the Brexit side. Let's suppose for the sake of argument that they are. They've only in the past few weeks had any opportunity to block anything, so who has been blocking things for the past 2 years?

jfman · 28-03-2019, 22:35

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Originally Posted by nomadking

People keep blaming the Brexit side. Let's suppose for the sake of argument that they are. They've only in the past few weeks had any opportunity to block anything, so who has been blocking things for the past 2 years?

The Conservative Party?

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Originally Posted by Damien

Mogg isn't interested in the leadership, rumour is he is running Johnson's campaign.

Is Mogg not a Roman Catholic? That’s a constitutional crisis in waiting.

Pierre · 28-03-2019, 22:41

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Originally Posted by jfman

The Conservative Party?

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Is Mogg not a Roman Catholic? That’s a constitutional crisis in waiting.

You’re right, he should have kept it hidden like Blair did.

**Damien** · 28-03-2019, 22:55

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Originally Posted by Pierre

https://www.facebook.com/16018652267...923441?sfns=mo

The EU isn’t as unified as it makes out, ok this is one is a MEP in the Parliament not a leader in the Council.

But as this whole sorry mess goes further South, you can expect more of this as other states face up to the impact of buggering about with this.

The EU just wants it cover with but not to be the one who pushes the button on no deal.

nomadking · 28-03-2019, 22:56

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Originally Posted by Pierre

You’re right, he should have kept it hidden like Blair did.

Nothing as such to hide. There is a tendency for those in what they consider to be "master" religions, that spouses that are not of that "master" religion have to convert. He only became a Catholic because Catholic Cherie insisted on it.

**Damien** · 28-03-2019, 22:58

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Originally Posted by nomadking

People keep blaming the Brexit side. Let's suppose for the sake of argument that they are. They've only in the past few weeks had any opportunity to block anything, so who has been blocking things for the past 2 years?

Well the first few months were lost to a General Election and the paralysed aftermath. It then just took time. Remember the full plan was formed at Chequers in July of last year. May had an agreement with the EU in late November.

nomadking · 28-03-2019, 22:59

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Originally Posted by Damien

The EU just wants it cover with but not to be the one who pushes the button on no deal.

Not sure that the EU wants a "no deal" as it also hurts them. As usual the EU(ie Germany and France) want it on their terms.

jfman · 28-03-2019, 23:02

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Originally Posted by nomadking

Not sure that the EU wants a "no deal" as it also hurts them. As usual the EU(ie Germany and France) want it on their terms.

Trading bloc wants positive outcome from negotiations shock.

The EU don’t want a no deal, but they’re certainly more prepared than we are.

N.B. “We” in this context means Great Britain and it’s territory on the island of Ireland.

**Damien** · 28-03-2019, 23:04

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Originally Posted by nomadking

Not sure that the EU wants a "no deal" as it also hurts them. As usual the EU(ie Germany and France) want it on their terms.

They don't want a no deal but they've accepted the possibility. Unless they really are the greatest bluffers in history then they were prepared to accept no deal over reopening the withdraw agreement.

But they don't want to be blamed for it either for their own domestic reasons. They would much rather we accept the deal but if we don't they don't want their own voters blaming them for it.