23-03-2019, 17:29
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Re: Brexit (New).
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Absolutely right, and those fighting against that decision of the electorate are not democrats.
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Your understanding of democracy is somewhat skewed. So long as they’re not doing anything illegal they have every right to continue
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Nor should subverting the Referendum result - but that's what those MPs are doing. That is bad for democracy.
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People expressing their democratic right to protest does not constitute the subverting of democracy
Parliament voting in what they believe to be the country’s best interests does not constitute the subverting of democracy
MP’s are the representatives of the people not the delegates I do wish you would understand that
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23-03-2019, 17:32
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Re: Brexit (New).
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Your understanding of democracy is somewhat skewed. So long as they’re not doing anything illegal they have every right to continue
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Even when caught doing something illegal they often carry on 
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23-03-2019, 17:32
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Re: Brexit (New).
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Some genuine facts here.
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23-03-2019, 17:36
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Re: Brexit (New).
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Your understanding of democracy is somewhat skewed. So long as they’re not doing anything illegal they have every right to continue
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People expressing their democratic right to protest does not constitute the subverting of democracy
Parliament voting in what they believe to be the country’s best interests does not constitute the subverting of democracy
MP’s are the representatives of the people not the delegates I do wish you would understand that
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Please do not patronise me.
There is no real meaning to what you say. So, they are "representatives" - big deal. Their duty is to respect the Referendum result and, in so doing, represent the 52% more than the 48%. Indeed, many Remain sympathetic MPs do respect the result, but rather a large number of perfidious MPs are trying to subvert Brexit.
Furthermore, the Labour leadership, so called representatives, are politicking; positioning themselves so as to get into power and hang the Referendum result.
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23-03-2019, 17:43
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Re: Brexit (New).
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Please do not patronise me.
There is no real meaning to what you say. So, they are "representatives" - big deal. Their duty is to respect the Referendum result and, in so doing, represent the 52% more than the 48%. Indeed, many Remain sympathetic MPs do respect the result, but rather a large number of perfidious MPs are trying to subvert Brexit.
Furthermore, the Labour leadership, so called representatives, are politicking; positioning themselves so as to get into power and hang the Referendum result.
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I’m apologise you feel that you’re being patronised but that’s quite simply not the case.
Their duty is to act in the best interests of the nation as a whole as they see fit It’s that simple no ifs no buts
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23-03-2019, 19:09
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Re: Brexit (New).
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No such thing as a hardliner. I voted to leave and expect to leave, nothing hard or extreme about it.
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To clarify, I'm talking about the hardline MPs she's pandered to not the folk here on Cable Forum.
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23-03-2019, 19:29
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Re: Brexit (New).
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To clarify, I'm talking about the hardline MPs she's pandered to not the folk here on Cable Forum.
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You mean those who insist on honouring the election manifesto and the result of the referendum.
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23-03-2019, 19:50
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Re: Brexit (New).
https://briefingsforbrexit.com/the-u...-a-wto-brexit/
We could all survive the nuclear option quite happily, that’s why we shouldn’t do anymore can kicking and either sign up to the deal or just leave.
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23-03-2019, 19:54
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Re: Brexit (New).
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Please do not patronise me.
There is no real meaning to what you say. So, they are "representatives" - big deal. Their duty is to respect the Referendum result and, in so doing, represent the 52% more than the 48%. Indeed, many Remain sympathetic MPs do respect the result, but rather a large number of perfidious MPs are trying to subvert Brexit.
Furthermore, the Labour leadership, so called representatives, are politicking; positioning themselves so as to get into power and hang the Referendum result.
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I didn’t realise that Gove, Johnson, Leadsom, Rees-Mogg, Raab, Jarvis, Hunt, et al were in the Labour Leadership team... 
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23-03-2019, 20:31
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Re: Brexit (New).
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I didn’t realise that Gove, Johnson, Leadsom, Rees-Mogg, Raab, Jarvis, Hunt, et al were in the Labour Leadership team... |
My remark was directed entirely at Labour.
That said, of course your sarcasm does also highlight fault line in the Conservative party - but not for the same reason as what Labour is doing.
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23-03-2019, 21:30
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Re: Brexit (New).
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Originally Posted by papa smurf
You mean those who insist on honouring the election manifesto and the result of the referendum.
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No, it's just a standard term used to describe some politicians.
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This might be something which many of us agree on! 
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Calls grow for public inquiry into Brexit
Investigation could look at ballot wording, May’s red lines and negotiation strategy
Calls for a public inquiry into Brexit are mounting among diplomats, business figures, peers and MPs, amid claims that the civil service is already planning for a future investigation into how it has been handled.
The decision to call the referendum, the red lines drawn up by Theresa May and Britain’s negotiating strategy are all issues that senior figures would like to be examined.
Bob Kerslake, the former head of the civil service, said an inquiry was needed into “the biggest humiliation since Suez, certainly since the IMF crisis [in 1976]”. The cross-party peer said he believed the civil service “is both expecting and preparing for this”.
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ry-into-brexit
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23-03-2019, 22:44
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Re: Brexit (New).
Cabinet coup “in progress”.
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23-03-2019, 23:02
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Re: Brexit (New).
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Cabinet coup “in progress”.
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I recommend garlic , a stake, some sunlight and a mirror
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23-03-2019, 23:12
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Re: Brexit (New).
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Cabinet coup “in progress”.
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Indeed, all over the Sunday press. Looks like Gove, one of the more able ministers is being tipped as her replacement. https://news.sky.com/story/sundays-n...pages-11673807
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23-03-2019, 23:28
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Re: Brexit (New).
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Oily snake Gove, well there's a surprise (not).
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