Brexit

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

Not sure it's a good time to change ,plus who would accept the poison chalice at this stage of the game.

Oily snake Gove is waiting, he'll pounce at the right time, when the.battle is over and the bodies removed...

Originally Posted by papa smurf

I don't think it could be anything more than advisory.

Quite but in the end if that's the only thing that Parliament is then shown to support then the question will be asked of what to do now. Ultimately I think Labour would support it if it were added to the political declaration which would be relatively simple to do and would then involve passing May's deal.

It's obtainable IMO. But I also wonder how much that political declaration is worth anything tbh.

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Originally Posted by Mr K

Oily snake Gove is waiting, he'll pounce at the right time, when the.battle is over and the bodies removed...

Gove is one of the very few politicians that I have a better opinion of after this process than I did going in. He advocated for Brexit but since then he has stuck around and tried to make it work. He took some responsibility see though this project whilst Johnson and Raab have gone off to claim moral higher-ground and work on their leadership bids, refusing to get their hands dirty. Not to mention that he has shown competence in each Ministry he has been given after Education which is a rare quality in the Government recently.

[jonbxx]

Originally Posted by Chris

To (mis)quote your own point from last night ...

Whose table?
Amber Rudd? David Gauke?

I live in David Gauke's constituency. The local Facebook feeds would combust if he got any softer on Brexit!!

I see David Lidington is reaching out to other parties at the moment at the moment. If Theresa May goes, he is very likely to be at least the temporary Prime Minister until a party election is held which could be, erm, interesting...

My personal opinion is that the Conservative Party needs to edge out Theresa May and get her to resign as they cannot boot her out now. If they don't, I can see a vote of no confidence coming pretty soon. When it's a fight between government and parliament, the government would be wise to remember that parliament can oust a government but government cannot change the parliament without parliaments consent.

[Carth]

1) Mays deal has been dismissed on two occasions

2) Mays deal cannot (will not be) improved upon by the EU

3) The EU are quite willing to give us an extension whereby we all run in circles for another few months, while improving the EU bank balance

4) If Mays deal goes through we will still be in the EU

5) No deal is better than anything currently offered by May or the EU

6) Half the people reading this will not agree with any of the above

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Carth

1) Mays deal has been dismissed on two occasions

2) Mays deal cannot (will not be) improved upon by the EU

3) The EU are quite willing to give us an extension whereby we all run in circles for another few months, while improving the EU bank balance

4) If Mays deal goes through we will still be in the EU

5) No deal is better than anything currently offered by May or the EU

6) Half the people reading this will not agree with any of the above

But the half that matter will agree with you

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by jonbxx

I live in David Gauke's constituency. The local Facebook feeds would combust if he got any softer on Brexit!!

I see David Lidington is reaching out to other parties at the moment at the moment. If Theresa May goes, he is very likely to be at least the temporary Prime Minister until a party election is held which could be, erm, interesting...

My personal opinion is that the Conservative Party needs to edge out Theresa May and get her to resign as they cannot boot her out now. If they don't, I can see a vote of no confidence coming pretty soon. When it's a fight between government and parliament, the government would be wise to remember that parliament can oust a government but government cannot change the parliament without parliaments consent.

I think she will resign after MV3 no matter the result. The EU played well as there is a significant change allowing it to be re-introduced.

[Carth]

**OFFICIAL** Macron gets his information from UK Cable forum

taken from BBC news (brexit stuff)

15:27
Marcon: 'Brexit decision based on fake news'

Mr Macron says "it is clear" the British people made a decision "without having all the information".

[Dave42]

no confidence vote more likely to pass now Tom Rayner of sky reckons

https://twitter.com/RaynerSkyNews/st...14685469745153

https://twitter.com/RaynerSkyNews/st...15268821848065


biggest certainty is she gonna lose her vote on her deal

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Carth

1) Mays deal has been dismissed on two occasions

2) Mays deal cannot (will not be) improved upon by the EU

3) The EU are quite willing to give us an extension whereby we all run in circles for another few months, while improving the EU bank balance

4) If Mays deal goes through we will still be in the EU

5) No deal is better than anything currently offered by May or the EU

6) Half the people reading this will not agree with any of the above

In fairness I agree with 84%.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Carth

**OFFICIAL** Macron gets his information from UK Cable forum

taken from BBC news (brexit stuff)

15:27
Marcon: 'Brexit decision based on fake news'

Mr Macron says "it is clear" the British people made a decision "without having all the information".

Just like the French did when that idiot got into power.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Carth

**OFFICIAL** Macron gets his information from UK Cable forum

taken from BBC news (brexit stuff)

15:27
Marcon: 'Brexit decision based on fake news'

Mr Macron says "it is clear" the British people made a decision "without having all the information".

Cable Forum: Authorities on (mis)information.

[Hom3r]

On thing has just struck me.

Remainers keep on staying about what wasn't on the ballot paper.

But neither was a second referendum if the self serving remainers MP fail to reach an agreement.

The only thing that is and being ignored is we leave next Friday with no deal.

Its also been very a week since I watched a programme on the Brexit Biased Corporation, other than the local news in the morning to catch the traffic report.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Hom3r

The only thing that is and being ignored is we leave next Friday with no deal.

Think you have misunderstood the extensions
- even if we leave with no deal that won't be next Friday.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Hom3r

On thing has just struck me.

Remainers keep on staying about what wasn't on the ballot paper.

But neither was a second referendum if the self serving remainers MP fail to reach an agreement.

The only thing that is and being ignored is we leave next Friday with no deal.

Its also been very a week since I watched a programme on the Brexit Biased Corporation, other than the local news in the morning to catch the traffic report.

There were only 2 options on the ballot paper. As we can see from the proposed indicative votes next week, there are several very different types of Brexit. It isn't as simple as 'just leaving' after all. There was no plan.

To my mind, although I know others disagree, the public should get the final say on whatever type of Brexit the muppets in Parliament come up with as they mean different things. The option to remain should be there if it's a type of Brexit you don't want.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by jfman

That just just an advisory plebiscite.

It would have been, but Parliament also voted to enact the result. It didn’t say before the referendum “ this is just advisory so we may or may not follow through with the result”