16-01-2019, 20:41
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Mr K
Customs Union coming our way soon. i.e. EU membership in all but name without the voting rights. Which means all this has been a waste of time, money and divided the country unnecessarily.
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Unnecessarily and what's worse is there was no appetite amongst the public for it until Dave called the referendum, the EU was waaaaayyyyy down the public's list of priorities until then, who knows if he'd stuck to the big society instead of letting Gideon derail it with austerity he might have got away with it to
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Originally Posted by denphone
Exactly as turkeys don't vote for Christmas do they.
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It's not entirely unknown...
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16-01-2019, 20:53
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#6482
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy
Unnecessarily and what's worse is there was no appetite amongst the public for it until Dave called the referendum, the EU was waaaaayyyyy down the public's list of priorities until then, who knows if he'd stuck to the big society instead of letting Gideon derail it with austerity he might have got away with it to
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It's not entirely unknown...
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A large proportion wanted leave for a long time before any referendum. They just never had a genuine opportunity to vote on that. Plus nobody was really allowed to complain about it, and still aren't.
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16-01-2019, 21:01
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#6483
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy
Unnecessarily and what's worse is there was no appetite amongst the public for it until Dave called the referendum, the EU was waaaaayyyyy down the public's list of priorities until then, who knows if he'd stuck to the big society instead of letting Gideon derail it with austerity he might have got away with it to[COLOR="Silver"]
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Didn't you at one time support UKIP.
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16-01-2019, 21:12
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#6484
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by nomadking
A large proportion wanted leave for a long time before any referendum. They just never had a genuine opportunity to vote on that. Plus nobody was really allowed to complain about it, and still aren't.
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Any evidence to back up that proposition, please?
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16-01-2019, 21:17
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#6485
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter
A new buzz word has surfaced today 'Brino'- Brexit in name only.
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Our German chums don't mess around on the language front:
Was für ein Brexshit!
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Originally Posted by Hugh
Any evidence to back up that proposition, please?
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There clearly is none hence no link.
The Express, Sun, Telegraph, Mail and others made a business from complaining about the EU.
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16-01-2019, 21:19
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy
Unnecessarily and what's worse is there was no appetite amongst the public for it until Dave called the referendum, the EU was waaaaayyyyy down the public's list of priorities until then, who knows if he'd stuck to the big society instead of letting Gideon derail it with austerity he might have got away with it to
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It's not entirely unknown...
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Originally Posted by papa smurf
Didn't you at one time support UKIP.
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Perhaps, with new information available, and/or seeing how they behaved, he decided to change his mind - it happens...
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16-01-2019, 21:22
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Re: Brexit
Well Corbyn (in theory) now has the scope to back a second referendum saying options have been exhausted and May isn’t interested in meaningful negotiations with the opposition. Whether the second part of that sentence is true or not is irrelevant- the judgement will fall down on party lines.
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16-01-2019, 21:23
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Hugh
Perhaps, with new information available, and/or seeing how they behaved, he decided to change his mind - it happens...
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He did until quite recently, ie about 10 UKIP leaders ago. 
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16-01-2019, 21:24
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Re: Brexit
As Northern Ireland voted to remain in the EU by a margin of 56% to 44% why can they not have a referendum on the hard border issue. Stuff the DUP.
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16-01-2019, 21:35
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by jfman
Well Corbyn (in theory) now has the scope to back a second referendum saying options have been exhausted and May isn’t interested in meaningful negotiations with the opposition. Whether the second part of that sentence is true or not is irrelevant- the judgement will fall down on party lines.
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LOL Bless.. The sound of a gutted man
You really did think TM was going to lose this vote tonight 
Onwards and upwards 
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16-01-2019, 21:35
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
He did until quite recently, ie about 10 UKIP leaders ago. |
Well, as David Davis said "“ If a democracy cannot change its mind, it ceases to be a democracy.”
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16-01-2019, 21:43
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Hugh
Well, as David Davis said "“If a democracy cannot change its mind, it ceases to be a democracy.”
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Quite
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Originally Posted by djfunkdup
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Onwards and upwards to what ? How exactly have this evenings proceedings crystallised anything whatsoever?
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16-01-2019, 21:46
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Hugh
Well, as David Davis said "“If a democracy cannot change its mind, it ceases to be a democracy.”
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There is no evidence people have changed their minds, piffling little polls with minute sample sizes compared to the actual result are totally irrelevant.
Polls that keep happening are very similar to what they were before the referendum and leave still won.
We simply do not keep having the same vote over and over, until the result goes the way of the democracy abusers.
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16-01-2019, 21:48
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Mick
We simply do not keep having the same vote over and over, until the result goes the way of the democracy abusers.
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They are petulant children Mick,But there are naughty steps for them and they will be firmly placed on them
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16-01-2019, 21:48
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by djfunkdup
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I don’t think you’ll find I have suggested any such thing on this forum.
It was also merely an observation on Corbyn’s next steps. I’ve always said MPs want to remain but not get the blame for it.
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