14-01-2019, 13:09
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Re: Brexit
Back on topic please.
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14-01-2019, 13:26
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Re: Brexit
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/r...exit-mdvw9366d
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Opponents of a no-deal Brexit will unveil a plan today to force Theresa May to delay or revoke Article 50 if parliament cannot unite on a way to leave the European Union.
In move to upend the “default” setting of Brexit a cross-party group of MPs will publish a draft bill this afternoon that, if passed, would reverse Britain’s automatic departure from Europe.
The bill would give the prime minister and parliament six weeks to reach a consensus on a way ahead. If no plan could be agreed by the Commons the bill would instruct the prime minister to request an extension to the Article 50 process.
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14-01-2019, 13:33
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Damien
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Opponents of a no-deal Brexit will unveil a plan today to force Theresa May to delay or revoke Article 50 if parliament cannot unite on a way to leave the European Union.
In move to upend the “default” setting of Brexit a cross-party group of MPs will publish a draft bill this afternoon that, if passed, would reverse Britain’s automatic departure from Europe.
The bill would give the prime minister and parliament six weeks to reach a consensus on a way ahead. If no plan could be agreed by the Commons the bill would instruct the prime minister to request an extension to the Article 50 process.
Some serious 'will of the people' stuff right there . . . deserves a straight red from the ref 
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14-01-2019, 13:55
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Re: Brexit
Anyones guess at what Plan B might be?
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14-01-2019, 14:07
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Gavin78
Anyones guess at what Plan B might be?
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Article 50 extension, 2nd referendum is my guess
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14-01-2019, 14:32
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Still alive and fighting
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Re: Brexit
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14-01-2019, 14:44
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#6337
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Damien
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Parliament has no authority, to tell May to extend A50, no matter how many times it holds a vote.
The Government of the day is the Executive and only it can revoke A50, it cannot be dictated to, to do anything. Motions and Amendments are not legally binding, the government can ignore them.
As for Bill's - Queen's consent would be required on a Bill that interferes with Royal Prerogative powers, because Parliament is trying to set a precedent by trying to steal executive powers it does not have and without her majesty's consent, can stop dead any Bill and debate put forward, it's existence provides the monarch and her government with a tool for blocking debate on certain subjects if bills are tabled by backbench rebels or the opposition.
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14-01-2019, 14:59
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Architect of Ideas
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Re: Brexit
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...e-50-extension
Theresa May refuses to rule out Article 50 extension. As Mick correctly points out, any extension is an executive function so entirely deliverable if she takes this approach.
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14-01-2019, 15:14
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Gavin78
Anyones guess at what Plan B might be?
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Civil war?
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14-01-2019, 17:14
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laeva recumbens anguis
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Gavin78
Anyones guess at what Plan B might be?
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Originally Posted by papa smurf
Civil war?
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Unusual version of democracy- if someone doesn’t get their way, they’ll resort to violence?
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14-01-2019, 17:25
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Hugh
Unusual version of democracy- if someone doesn’t get their way, they’ll resort to violence?
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Within the conservative party obviously.
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Last edited by papa smurf; 14-01-2019 at 17:33.
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14-01-2019, 18:20
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laeva recumbens anguis
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by papa smurf
Within the conservative party obviously.
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Do you mean like there has been since the mid-70's, with peaks in the 90s?
Not much change there, then...
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14-01-2019, 18:24
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Hugh
Unusual version of democracy- if someone doesn’t get their way, they’ll resort to violence?
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Democracy? If you want that then respect the democratic vote of the referendum.
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14-01-2019, 18:25
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Hugh
Do you mean like there has been since the mid-70's, with peaks in the 90s?
Not much change there, then...
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NO
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14-01-2019, 18:41
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#6345
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Re: Brexit
It could all have been avoided if those perfidious Brexiteers hadn’t used it as an audition for Conservative Party leader and bottomed out our preferred option for leaving before the referendum.
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