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Mr K · 14-12-2018, 12:36

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Originally Posted by pip08456

Nothing has to happen Mr K, we'll just leave with no deal in March 2019.

Don't think that will happen, parliament won't let it, the law can be changed at the drop of a hat if they want.

Think you'll find the a No Deal Bexit wouldn't be as wonderful as you think .
In fact, Richard Branson says we'd go Bankrupt.... https://www.independent.co.uk/news/b...-a8683171.html. VM could fold, then what would we post or watch?

jfman · 14-12-2018, 12:46

We also need to pass around 800 pieces of secondary legislation to support the EU Withdrawal Act. Without these many areas would be left in a legal and regulatory minefield.

Usually these are not controversial, and pass committees or unopposed. If someone were to force votes on these in the chamber...

Sephiroth · 14-12-2018, 13:07

The EU has announced that from 2021, UK citizens wishing to visit the EU must pay 7 Euros. True colours. Why do we want to have anything to do with those nasty people?

Mr K · 14-12-2018, 13:13

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

The EU has announced that from 2021, UK citizens wishing to visit the EU must pay 7 Euros. True colours. Why do we want to have anything to do with those nasty people?

Economic and financial stability? free movement of goods and labour ? But we don't want any of that as we're bonkers. ...
p.s. most of the people I've met in Europe are very nice

However we have lots of 'nasty' people here.

The 2nd world war is over, move on old chap, the rest of the World has

Stephen · 14-12-2018, 13:14

No different than having to pay $14 to get a US ESTA.

denphone · 14-12-2018, 13:17

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

The EU has announced that from 2021, UK citizens wishing to visit the EU must pay 7 Euros. True colours. Why do we want to have anything to do with those nasty people?

So you won't be visiting a EU country then Sephiroth?.

Dave42 · 14-12-2018, 13:22

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

The EU has announced that from 2021, UK citizens wishing to visit the EU must pay 7 Euros. True colours. Why do we want to have anything to do with those nasty people?

we are ones that leaving but they are nasty how you make that out as said by other we got to pay to go visit USA ect are USA nasty people too?

**Damien** · 14-12-2018, 13:29

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

The EU has announced that from 2021, UK citizens wishing to visit the EU must pay 7 Euros. True colours. Why do we want to have anything to do with those nasty people?

This is the default if no exemption to negotiated in a future. As Stephen says it's often in other countries too.

The EU applies this fee to all countries that have nothing to do with it and no visa-waiver.

People here have been quite clear they want 'nothing to do with the EU' so this is the relationship people voted for and continue to advocate for then get angry when it's announced

Sephiroth · 14-12-2018, 13:32

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Originally Posted by Stephen

No different than having to pay $14 to get a US ESTA.

You lot don’t get it. They are nasty. Why should we want to have anything to do with them? True colours.

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Originally Posted by denphone

So you won't be visiting a EU country then Sephiroth?.

What’s the matter with you? They are being nasty. We should have very little to do with them.

Dave42 · 14-12-2018, 13:32

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

You lot don’t get it. They are nasty. Why should we want to have anything to do with them? True colours.

so are USA nasty people too as need to pay for visa to enter and are all the other countries nasty people too that do the same and should we have nothing to do with them countries?

Sephiroth · 14-12-2018, 13:34

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Originally Posted by Dave42

we are ones that leaving but they are nasty how you make that out as said by other we got to pay to go visit USA ect are USA nasty people too?

What’s wrong with you? USA visitor policy is unrelated to us leaving the EU. We are supposed to be having a close relationship with them post-Brexit. Slapping a visitor tariff on us, which brings administrative overheads, is downright nasty and unnecessary.

**Damien** · 14-12-2018, 13:34

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

You lot don’t get it. They are nasty. Why should we want to have anything to do with them? True colours.

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What’s the matter with you? They are being nasty. We should have very little to do with them.

Grow up. You want to leave the EU entirely, you pay the fee the other people do.

denphone · 14-12-2018, 13:35

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

What’s the matter with you? They are being nasty. We should have very little to do with them.

There is nothing a matter with me as its you who have the problem with the EU as l asked a simple question which you still have not answered.

Dave42 · 14-12-2018, 13:36

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

What’s wrong with you? USA visitor policy is unrelated to us leaving the EU. We are supposed to be having a close relationship with them post-Brexit. Slapping a visitor tariff on us, which brings administrative overheads, is downright nasty and unnecessary.

what wrong with you as your the ones that saying EU are nasty for having visa that's costs exacty same process as USA and all other countries that have them are all them nasty people too

**Hugh** · 14-12-2018, 13:36

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

The EU has announced that from 2021, UK citizens wishing to visit the EU must pay 7 Euros. True colours. Why do we want to have anything to do with those nasty people?

Well, since we don’t want Freedom of Movement, there will be additional administration required to check travellers, which will cost - just like the USA ESTA.

No nastiness, just pragmatic capitalism.

Update - in fact, it’s just like the ESTA.

From April this year...

https://euobserver.com/justice/141705

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The reference to a "European visa" was misleading, but the new European Travel Information and Authorisation System (Etias), agreed on Wednesday, will impose "a travel authorisation fee of €7" on all "visa-exempt third country nationals" when it enters into life.

Etias, which is modelled on the US visa-waiver system, is designed to increase border security in times of mass migration and a heightened terrorist threat.

Visitors to the EU, including from the US, will have to file an online application, which will be cross-checked against EU states' crime databases and those of Interpol, the international police agency.

Most will get a travel permit "automatically and quickly" and the €7 fee will keep them covered for three years.

But if the databases scored a "hit", or if there were "doubts" or "elements requiring further analysis" they would be told, within 96 hours, that they had been denied entry into Europe's so-called Schengen travel zone, which includes 26 countries.

That was the deal agreed by EU member states' ambassadors in Brussels on Wednesday.