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				Pretty inevitable given both want a debate that suits their own agenda's. 
			
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 exactly was never really gonna happen Den
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-12-2018, 17:31
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  denphone
					 
				 
				Pretty inevitable given both want a debate that suits their own agenda's. 
			
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 This BBC decision suits Corbyn's agenda. Is there any valid reason for not having it on the BBC, other than Corbyn doesn't want it?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-12-2018, 17:39
			
			
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				This BBC decision suits Corbyn's agenda. Is there any valid reason for not having it on the BBC, other than Corbyn doesn't want it? 
			
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				The prime minister proposed the debate on her deal with the European Union last week, prompting a week of discussions between political parties and the broadcasters over who would get to host the programme. 
 
Labour backed a proposal from ITV, which would consist of a simple head-to-head format including the two leaders, while Downing Street preferred the BBC’s offer of a debate featuring a panel of experts and representatives of smaller parties. 
 
Until now none of the broadcasters or political parties were willing to compromise, prompting the farcical situation where both the ITV and BBC were planning for a live television show due to take place in five days’ time with no idea whether either of the main guests would turn up.
			
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			mps reject delay to contempt decision
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-12-2018, 17:51
			
			
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				Mr Corbyn claimed he preferred ITV's bid out of "respect" for viewers  who wanted to watch the I'm A Celebrity... Get Me Out Of Here! final on  ITV the same evening - 9 December.  
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				Not exactly a valid reason. 
			
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 It  does not surprise me that such a lame reason was given.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			BREAKING - MPs VOTE TO FIND GOVERNMENT IN CONTEMPT OF PARLIAMENT.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			mps vote Government in contempt of Parliament  
 
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				mps reject delay to contempt decision 
			
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Government becomes the first in history to be found in contempt of Parliament for not publishing Brexit deal's full legal advice - loses knife edge vote by 311 v 293.
			
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			04-12-2018, 18:07
			
			
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			Good it's not exactly undesirable to want to have the full facts on such a momentous decision making process, May is an idiot.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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 That was palpably clear after we had the results of the General Election last year and nothing since has changed that..
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				isn't up to government to inforce the law of minimum wage and free movement worked both ways OB and it aint fault of EU if UK government choice not to use rule that can control EU movement 3 month rule 
			
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 First of all, the presence of EU migrants in our country is forcing remuneration down to the minimum wage. If they weren't here, employers would have to pay more to recruit people for those jobs. It's simple supply and demand principles.
 
Secondly, free movement may work both ways, but surely, the electorate appreciated that when they voted to leave. The electorate don't want freedom of movement - it is that simple.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Shameful.  
 
A Government in contempt of our sovereign Parliament. No mandate to deliver anything now. A vote of no confidence not just desirable, it is a must.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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Shameful.  
 
A Government in contempt of our sovereign Parliament. No mandate to deliver anything now. A vote of no confidence not just desirable, it is a must. 
			
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 Don't be ridiculous. That was always the convention. 
 
The problem with revealing the full legal advice is that you give an advantage to the other side, in this case, the EU. 
 
Not at all shameful for the government to take that position. But those who forced that vote through can rightly be described as treacherous.  
 
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				That was palpably clear after we had the results of the General Election last year and nothing since has changed that.. 
			
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 That's what happens when a government is in a minority. Nothing new here.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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