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			29-11-2018, 16:26
			
			
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How can we blame the EU for non-EU migration steadily rising?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			29-11-2018, 16:35
			
			
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How can we blame the EU for non-EU migration steadily rising? 
			
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			29-11-2018, 18:41
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  Chris
					 
				 
				It’s looking like a no-deal.  I’m hoping for a no-deal.  I don’t believe the EU, or France or Germany, are going to take this seriously until no-deal is properly on the table.  As soon as we establish that we’re heading for no deal, the bluff over the Irish border will be called (we’re not going to install one, there won’t be one unless the Irish decide to do so), and the backstop will be neutralised.  It’s fairly obvious that Spain and France are already making plans to use the backstop as a bargaining chip in future trade negotiations.  I’d rather they didn’t have the chance. 
			
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			30-11-2018, 06:01
			
			
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How can we blame the EU for non-EU migration steadily rising? 
			
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 We're way beyond logic I am afraid. We will blame whoever we're told to blame. It's worked for the last 40 years so no reason to change things.
 
The joke is of course the ones who control the agenda will continue to do so ...
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			30-11-2018, 07:43
			
			
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			This is usually the level of incompetence and recklessness one would find in some Labour councils. 
https://www.theguardian.com/society/...-by-government
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ing-money.html
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				Although the council has already set in train a draconian cuts programme for the current financial year to try to overturn the £70m budget shortfall, the commissioners said this alone would not be enough to prevent insolvency.
			
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			30-11-2018, 19:47
			
			
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 Conservatives were once the party of sound money but after the ERM issue they lost a bit of credibility. They've since lost more with Boris's vanity projects and Brexit.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			30-11-2018, 19:56
			
			
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				Conservatives were once the party of sound money but after the ERM issue they lost a bit of credibility. They've since lost more with Boris's vanity projects and Brexit. 
			
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 Ah, yes, the ERM! Yet another failed EU project!
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			30-11-2018, 20:00
			
			
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				Ah, yes, the ERM! Yet another failed EU project! 
			
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 The honourable Nigel Lawson did not think so..  
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			30-11-2018, 20:08
			
			
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				The honourable Nigel Lawson did not think so..   
			
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 And as you can tell from his pronouncements in more recent times, he has been very sceptical of the EU project ever since.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			30-11-2018, 21:02
			
			
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				And as you can tell from his pronouncements in more recent times, he has been very sceptical of the EU project ever since. 
			
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 So sceptical of the EU project he's applied for residency France ! A typical hypocritical Brexiter.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				So sceptical of the EU project he's applied for residency France ! A typical hypocritical Brexiter. 
			
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 There are quite a few hypocrites like James Dyson,  Jacob Rees-Mogg , John Redwood and Lord Ashcroft all moving their investments abroad to escape the shock of a no-deal Brexit.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			01-12-2018, 02:35
			
			
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				So sceptical of the EU project he's applied for residency France ! A typical hypocritical Brexiter. 
			
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 Only you would connect the two and draw the wrong conclusion!
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Only you would connect the two and draw the wrong conclusion! 
			
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 What? Only I would connect what Nigel Lawson says, to what Nigel Lawson does ! Surely not   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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