Brexit (Old)

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Got anything to back the assertion up that Farage wouldn't be a decent Brexit negotiator?

He’s never been Prime Minister of Australia.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Got anything to back the assertion up that Farage wouldn't be a decent Brexit negotiator?

He's hardly gone down well in the EU parliament when he occasionally turned up to mouth off insults. How to win friends and influence, not ! He's been an embarrassment as a representative of the UK.

Never mind, he's going to quote happily clam his massive EU pension which we'll be paying for

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Got anything to back the assertion up that Farage wouldn't be a decent Brexit negotiator?

Originally Posted by Mick

Yawn - I don't really care why you stay away Mark and if you think you can come back and and start mouthing off at me, you can think again.

Don't interfere in matters which do not concern you.

Finally - I am not wrong - you got Guy Verhoftstadt stood there in the EU Parliament demanding more Sovereign power from the EU Member States and that power being taken and put back in the EU institutions, you got the EU wanting an army - if this not more Hitler/Nazi like, I don't know what is. So the meme I posted earlier is actually fairly accurate. So enough of your silly big font "wrong wrong wrong memes", it has absolutely no effect on me.

I’m not entirely convinced that given UK contributions, in terms of soldiers, assets and resources to NATO it’s entirely a bad idea for the EU Member States to organise better and contribute more if they agree to do so.

It was “our boys” over in Yugoslavia, Afghanistan and Iraq after all.

The idea that somehow that equates to Nazism is fundamentally flawed.

Originally Posted by jfman

I’m not entirely convinced that given UK contributions, in terms of soldiers, assets and resources to NATO it’s entirely a bad idea for the EU Member States to organise better and contribute more if they agree to do so.

It was “our boys” over in Yugoslavia, Afghanistan and Iraq after all.

The idea that somehow that equates to Nazism is fundamentally flawed.

I am not talking about NATO - the EU wants an army separate to NATO because they want a United States of Europe - no thank you.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by jfman

I’m not entirely convinced that given UK contributions, in terms of soldiers, assets and resources to NATO it’s entirely a bad idea for the EU Member States to organise better and contribute more if they agree to do so.

It was “our boys” over in Yugoslavia, Afghanistan and Iraq after all.

The idea that somehow that equates to Nazism is fundamentally flawed.

The EU are not talking about organising and contributing more to NATO though. They are referring to a standing European army separate from NATO.

[handyman]

Originally Posted by Mick

Yawn - I don't really care why you stay away Mark and if you think you can come back and and start mouthing off at me, you can think again.

I never left, just like the UK will never leave the EU. And abusing your position as a mod on a forum is super big of you, you tiny little man. you're a Euclidean point..

Originally Posted by Mick

Don't interfere in matters which do not concern you.

The prosperity and survival of this country concerns me deeply. Just because you're a Brexit voting, EU hating Alt-right individual does not put you on the right side of the argument.

Originally Posted by Mick

Finally - I am not wrong - you got Guy Verhoftstadt stood there in the EU Parliament demanding more Sovereign power from the EU Member States and that power being taken and put back in the EU institutions, you got the EU wanting an army - if this not more Hitler/Nazi like, I don't know what is. So the meme I posted earlier is actually fairly accurate. So enough of your silly big font "wrong wrong wrong memes", it has absolutely no effect on me.

None of what you have said adds anything to your argument and only makes your position look feeble and weak. Comparing the EU to a party that exterminated 6 million Jews, I ask you..

The EU aims to have countries work together to be stronger together.

Brexiteers think that the UK is suddenly going to be an Empire again. FFs we are not even the biggest power in Europe but at least we had a respected seat at the table.

Originally Posted by Mr K

He's hardly gone down well in the EU parliament when he occasionally turned up to mouth off insults. How to win friends and influence, not ! He's been an embarrassment as a representative of the UK.

Never mind, he's going to quote happily clam his massive EU pension which we'll be paying for

And Drunken Juncker stumbling about, pissed as a fart is not embarrassing for the EU ?

Ok then....

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Mick

I am not talking about NATO - the EU wants an army seperate to NATO because they want a United States of Europe - no thank you.

The membership of both organisations is virtually one and the same. An EU force could never practically act without NATO approval and vice versa.

There’s many arguments against “ever closer union” but EU Member States choosing to pool common resource, training and military assets can only be to the benefit of NATO operations.

There’s not a single territory the EU has a border with it can realistically invade. It’d only enhance their ability to contribute to NATO, something that President Trump has openly called upon everyone else to do.

However I respect your right to a different opinion on the matter, and I’m sure we’d both agree it’s further diverging from the main topic.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by jfman

The idea that somehow that equates to Nazism is fundamentally flawed.

For the millions who perished in the concentration camps of the Nazis it's utterly reprehensible to put the two in the same bracket.

[Hom3r]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Why pain? I quite like the choice between TM's deal and a no deal. That'll separate the men from the boys in the House of Commons! Whoops, sorry, ladies.

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I hope not, Hom3r, because as a spoilt paper, your vote will not be counted. If everyone did that, the remainers would win by default.

Anyway, hopefully it will not come to that.

If you wrote it inside the box it will count.

In the recent election someone (Even thought they know who voted for who) drew inside the box a "Gentlemans sausage", it was counted as it was within the box.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-new...-penis-8277990

[jfman]

Originally Posted by pip08456

The EU are not talking about organising and contributing more to NATO though. They are referring to a standing European army separate from NATO.

Which will be far better resources to respond with NATO/US led operations.

Do people seriously think it’ll invade anyone? The main achievement it’ll have is reducing 16-24 unemployment by a fraction of one per cent.

A standing EU army, even at 50 000, would lack the technology and support required to carry out significant operations anywhere in the world without US agreement.

Originally Posted by handyman

I never left, just like the UK will never leave the EU. And abusing your position as a mod on a forum is super big of you, you tiny little man. you're a Euclidean point..

We will be leaving the EU - And you don't visit often enough to know I am not actually a mod - I am one of the owners, so DO NOT come on here and abuse me on my own goddamn property with pathetic childish insults or you will be actually leaving for sure.

Originally Posted by handyman

The prosperity and survival of this country concerns me deeply. Just because you're a Brexit voting, EU hating Alt-right individual does not put you on the right side of the argument.

I am not Alt-Right thanks, yet another incorrect assumption of a Brexiteer but yawn yawn yawn - save it, heard all this BS before.

Originally Posted by handyman

None of what you have said adds anything to your argument and only makes your position look feeble and weak. Comparing the EU to a party that exterminated 6 million Jews, I ask you..

And I have told you, the EU are behaving Hitler like with their power demands. Erosion of Democracy.

Originally Posted by handyman

The EU aims to have countries work together to be stronger together.

LOL - absolute rubbish, keep telling yourself this.

Originally Posted by handyman

Brexiteers think that the UK is suddenly going to be an Empire again. FFs we are not even the biggest power in Europe but at least we had a respected seat at the table.

This has nothing to do with wanting the UK to be an empire again, my you have been brainwashed and totally got everything wrong as to why people voted to leave.

[Hom3r]

I thought the JC wants us to be tied in with the EU trade markets?

I have been a live long Labour vote, but in the unlikely event of a General Election I will seriously consider voting Tory.

But there in lies my dilemma, my Tory MP isn't pro-same sex relationships, and as you may know my niece came out at 16.

So can I honestly vote for him?

[Gavin78]

I can see we are coming to an end with the EU all the hardcore remain voters are making a final stand.

Talking of Juncker did anyone see the video of him ready to make a speech with the wrong colour shoes on each foot?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5ukxe65gXE

He talks the UK down but can't even dress himself

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Mick

And Drunken Juncker stumbling about, pissed as a fart is not embarrassing for the EU ?

Ok then....

I was replying to the question as to why Farage wouldn't be the best negotiatior for the country Mick
As usual you try to change the subject....