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		|  15-11-2018, 11:54 | #3107 |  
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					Originally Posted by Sephiroth  An unwarranted sneer/smear.  Olly Robbins negotiated this crud Agreement.
 
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Raab had a job called the "Secretary of State for Exiting the European Union". The role is sort of obvious really. Anyone who is paid as the "Secretary of State for Exiting the European Union" and isn't in charge of "Exiting the European Union" is a fraud. He is in Cabinet to do a job and is responsible for his portfolio. Period ..
		 
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					Originally Posted by Mick  Not so sure - he is not on the front bench in the Commons, I would have thought if he supports the PM, he would be there. Probably sharpening those knives he used in Boris's back. |  Well there is no word from Michael Gove’s team about where he is as its complete  silence. Is he plotting?
		 
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					Originally Posted by ianch99  Sneer? Smear? Calm down ... 
 Raab had a job called the "Secretary of State for Exiting the European Union". The role is sort of obvious really. Anyone who is paid as the "Secretary of State for Exiting the European Union" and isn't in charge of "Exiting the European Union" is a fraud. He is in Cabinet to do a job and is responsible for his portfolio. Period ..
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 And there you go again, calling Raab a "fraud".  You know very well what was going on in May's cabinet; she and Robbins steered the Brexit ship from the Engine Room.  Raab was given a nominal role and title.
 
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					Originally Posted by Sephiroth  I'm perfectly calm and correctly describing your remarks.
 And there you go again, calling Raab a "fraud".  You know very well what was going on in May's cabinet; she and Robbins steered the Brexit ship from the Engine Room.  Raab was given a nominal role and title.
 
 By all means sneer at May and Robbins.
 
 
 |  You are blinded by your anger. Rabb was in charge by definition. If he wasn't in charge and did not resign as a consequence then he is a fraud. Simples ..
		 
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			Mark Francois, a Tory Brexiter and a member of the European Research Group says 84 Tory MPs planning to vote against May's deal.
		 
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					Originally Posted by denphone  Mark Francois, a Tory Brexiter and a member of the European Research Group says 84 Tory MPs planning to vote against May's deal. |  as I always said Den no way will it get past parliament
 
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					Originally Posted by Dave42  as I always said Den no way will it get past parliament
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					Originally Posted by ianch99  You are blinded by your anger. Rabb was in charge by definition. If he wasn't in charge and did not resign as a consequence then he is a fraud. Simples .. |  My word you do miss a lot memo's. 
 
You need to stop this arguing with people with baseless rubbish all the time.
 
Pay attention - everyone knows, or should do that it was Civil servants working behind the scenes on the Brexit negotiations. Raab was just there to represent the British Government as the top minister for DeXeu. 
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					Originally Posted by denphone  Will the last person to leave the cabinet please turn out the lights.
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https://twitter.com/George_Osborne/s...26402386235393 
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					Originally Posted by Mick  My word you do miss a lot memo's.  
You need to stop this arguing with people with baseless rubbish all the time.
 
Pay attention - everyone knows, or should do that it was Civil servants working behind the scenes on the Brexit negotiations. Raab was just there to represent the British Government as the top minister for DeXeu. 
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That's exactly how George Osborne feels in today's edition of the Evening Standard...
https://twitter.com/George_Osborne/s...26402386235393 
Revenge is a dish, best served cold. |  You really do need to get a grip on reality. Raab was the cabinet minister *responsible* for the United Kingdom's withdrawal from the European Union. As such, he signs off any deal. If he didn't, he's an idiot. If he did, he's a fraud. Maybe he is both ..
		 
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 “I’m not taking lessons on standing up for our United Kingdom from carpetbaggers,” Mundell told ITV.
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			Looking forwards to a collapsed government and a no deal brexit. Might shut these remain voters up
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		|  15-11-2018, 13:25 | #3119 |  
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			Suggestion from Commons sources that that May will stay in the House after the statement and see Graham Brady at 1.30pm. 
 It seems 48 letters have been received - the threshold needed for a vote of no confidence to go ahead.
 
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