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			12-11-2018, 11:02
			
			
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				It's very fair. You're all talking the same divisive nationalistic language. The same sort of language that has led to conflicts in the past. 
			
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 Outageous.  Brexiteers don't put people directly into furnaces to be burnt alive (Putin's FSB); Brexiteers don't come near to Trump and his antics. 
 
You are objecting to Nationalism so we can put aside Putin/Trump whose brand of Nationalism is unacceptable to most of us. 
 
Is Nationalism reasonable in the UK's case?  I rather think it is in the sense that breaking away from the EU and its federalisation policy, where our interests and differences can be snuffed by the other members, can be both rationalised and justified. 
 
We walk away from bullies is how I see that. You call it Nationalism. 
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			12-11-2018, 11:21
			
			
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				Outageous.  Brexiteers don't put people directly into furnaces to be burnt alive (Putin's FSB); Brexiteers don't come near to Trump and his antics. 
 
You are objecting to Nationalism so we can put aside Putin/Trump whose brand of Nationalism is unacceptable to most of us. 
 
Is Nationalism reasonable in the UK's case?  I rather think it is in the sense that breaking away from the EU and its federalisation policy, where our interests and differences can be snuffed by the other members, can be both rationalised and justified. 
 
We walk away from bullies is how I see that. You call it Nationalism. 
 
			
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 Well it's no coincidence Farage is Trump's best buddy... They talk the same language.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-11-2018, 11:43
			
			
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				Well it's no coincidence Farage is Trump's best buddy... They talk the same language. 
			
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 Yes, that would be English, which pretty much covers every other politician.   
I really don't see the point in these political threads anymore - it's the same shitty inaccurate bullshit arguments posted/cycled every god damn day/week/month.   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-11-2018, 11:50
			
			
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				Yes, that would be English, which pretty much covers every other politician.   
I really don't see the point in these political threads anymore - it's the same shitty inaccurate bullshit arguments posted/cycled every god damn day/week/month.    
			
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 Maybe concentrate on the 'Happy thought' thread then Mick ?    You be good at that for sure   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-11-2018, 12:00
			
			
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				Yes, that would be English, which pretty much covers every other politician.   
I really don't see the point in these political threads anymore - it's the same shitty inaccurate bullshit arguments posted/cycled every god damn day/week/month.    
			
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 But close the political  threads and its highly likely other threads linked to politics will be started again by members on here.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			12-11-2018, 12:15
			
			
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				But close the political  threads and its highly likely other threads linked to politics will be started again by members on here. 
			
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 Who mentioned thread closure in this topic or other similar topics, with the exception to Trump thread, which I do think should be closed, as we did not have an Obama blog thread, or Bush topic ?
 
I merely just pointed out that it's same mundane arguments, again and again.
 
And to just get back to your point, as forum policy dictates if a thread is closed on particular topic, another one must not be started, so if any member decided to break these forum policies, I swing the ban hammer. Simples. But we are not here, yet.   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-11-2018, 12:27
			
			
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				Who mentioned thread closure in this topic or other similar topics, with the exception to Trump thread, which I do think should be closed, as we did not have an Obama blog thread, or Bush topic ?
  
			
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 Perhaps you should rename the Trump thread so that it entails the full breath of American politics.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			12-11-2018, 12:28
			
			
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				No I'm mainly referring to the protection of elderly Tory voters at the expense of the young. and the ever widening North/South divide. All in this together - my backside !   
 
(Austerity btw was a result of the worldwide economic crisis and the greedy (B)ankers who still haven't been made to account. ) 
			
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 For heaven’s sake, Mr K! How is Brexit ‘protecting’ the elderly? Most people who voted Brexit did so to protect our future as a country.
 
Labour may not have been responsible for the financial crash, but it was certainly responsible for the failure to have sufficient reserves to cushion the blow.
 
Remember who sold all our gold reserves (and incidentally, raided our pensions), do we?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-11-2018, 12:30
			
			
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				I merely just pointed out that it's same mundane arguments, again and again.
  
			
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 Sadly that is what politics does as go down to your local social club and pub and they will be having the same arguments about the same subjects.  
 
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And to just get back to your point, as forum policy dictates if a thread is closed on particular topic, another one must not be started, so if any member decided to break these forum policies, I swing the ban hammer. Simples. But we are not here, yet.    
			
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 Well l will lets you swing the hammer at someone else on that matter if it happens.  
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			12-11-2018, 13:01
			
			
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				Well it's no coincidence Farage is Trump's best buddy... They talk the same language. 
			
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 Nothing to do with anything of relevance.  Complete red herring.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			12-11-2018, 22:49
			
			
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				well it's no coincidence farage is trump's best buddy... They talk the same language. 
			
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			15-11-2018, 10:29
			
			
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			15-11-2018, 10:31
			
			
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 Well with 20 Minister's having resigned from Theresa May’s government in her two year premiership there ain't much of a choice left.  
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			15-11-2018, 10:35
			
			
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				Well with 20 Minister's having resigned from Theresa May’s government in her two year premiership there ain't much of a choice left.   
			
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 I'll do it, at my age I've seen and heard enough political BS that I have no problem telling others to . . .  well, you know   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			It's good that things are coming to a head.  Matters will take their course and it is unlikely, for what my opinion is worth, that there will be a General Election.  There'll be a new Tory PM who will steady the ship.  The right person can steer us through No Deal (who might that person be you will ask); let's see.  It'll be fun anyway so long as Corbyn doesn't get into power. 
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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