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		| A gunman has opened fire at a bar in California killing at least 12 people, including a police officer. 
 The shooting began at about 23:20 local time on Wednesday at the Borderline Bar and Grill in Thousand Oaks, California about 40 miles (65km) north-west of Los Angeles.
 
 At least another 10 were also injured.
 
 Officials say the suspect was found dead inside and have not yet identified him. They do not yet know his motive for the shooting.
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			Sadly it will just continue and continue as there is not a hope in hell of Americans gun laws ever being changed.  
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			Death toll 13. 11 customers, the shooter and a  police sergeant. 12 injured.
		 
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			Being reported that gunman used smoke grenades and a "Uzi" machine gun.
		 
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		| Authorities identified the suspected shooter as David Ian Long, who neighbors say went by the name Ian. 
 One neighbor who knew Long said he was a veteran who suffered from PTSD. She said, "I don't know what he was doing with a gun." Others said Long lived at the home with his mother.
 
 His gun, which appears to be a .45-caliber handgun, was purchased legally.
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			As tragic as these events are it feels like they are an almost daily/weekly occurance and nothing will get don't to prevent them. 
 Trump just keeps spouting, "give them all guns too" which won't help anything other than the death toll rise further.
 
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					Originally Posted by Stephen  As tragic as these events are it feels like they are an almost daily/weekly occurance and nothing will get don't to prevent them. 
 Trump just keeps spouting, "give them all guns too" which won't help anything other than the death toll rise further.
 |  If someone was shooting at you wouldn't you like the option to defend yourself.
		 
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					Originally Posted by papa smurf  If someone was shooting at you wouldn't you like the option to defend yourself. |  In a dark crowded bar, how would you know who you were shooting at?
		 
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			Sorry but a non story in the UK.
 If they refuse to have gun control they must 100% accept the price that some loser will kill people.
 
 I also wish our news would stop  broadcasting this.
 
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					Originally Posted by papa smurf  If someone was shooting at you wouldn't you like the option to defend yourself. |  If they had tighter control over who accesses said guns then no one would be shooting at anyone!
		 
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					Originally Posted by Stephen  If they had tighter control over who accesses said guns then no one would be shooting at anyone! |  HOW do you add tighter a restrictions to a country with MORE guns than there is people, in circulation ?
 
Congress could change laws tomorrow - wouldn't do a damn thing - the guns are made and already out there and as we have seen with every hint of there being some kind of legislative change, Americans just go out and buy more guns.
 
By the way, there has been multiple stabbings in London this last week under the ever watchful eye of the the current useless London Mayor, last count was 8 killings up to yesterday?
 
Where are your posts/calls for tighter knife controls, IN our own country ???
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			Another week, another mass shooting.  Is it even news worthy?
		 
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					Originally Posted by Hom3r  Sorry but a non story in the UK.
 If they refuse to have gun control they must 100% accept the price that some loser will kill people.
 
 I also wish our news would stop  broadcasting this.
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					Originally Posted by Mick  HOW do you add tighter a restrictions to a country with MORE guns than there is people, in circulation ?
 Congress could change laws tomorrow - wouldn't do a damn thing - the guns are made and already out there and as we have seen with every hint of there being some kind of legislative change, Americans just go out and buy more guns.
 
 By the way, there has been multiple stabbings in London this last week under the ever watchful eye of the the current useless London Mayor, last count was 8 killings up to yesterday?
 
 Where are your posts/calls for tighter knife controls, IN our own country ???
 |  Knifes are totally different they are usually an everyday item used in kitchens and work places everyday. It's an item designed for a purpose that is then being used for a different one. 
 
Guns are solely destined to kill.  
 
Limit the type of guns available and then how many people can own. That would be a start.
		 
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			How do you limit types of certain guns that are "already" in circulation ?
 A knife when used as a weapon can be solely destined to kill, as is the current unwelcome trend in London.
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