Brexit (Old)

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by denphone

l meant all the parties.

Yes the Greens are lying toads, look at what they've been telling us about climate change for decades....
Something we should be much more concerned about than Brexit.

[RichardCoulter]

I've just had a quick look to see what preparations the Government are making in the event of riots, shortages, civil unrest etc.

It says that at Brexit time, the police are likely to be told that they cannot take annual leave and that there's a real possibility that the army could be brought in to quash civil unrest.

Local authorities are making their own individual arrangements and MP's from all parties have warned that problems may arise, particularly if we leave without a deal.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

I've just had a quick look to see what preparations the Government are making in the event of riots, shortages, civil unrest etc.

It says that at Brexit time, the police are likely to be told that they cannot take annual leave and that there's a real possibility that the army could be brought in to quash civil unrest.

Local authorities are making their own individual arrangements and MP's from all parties have warned that problems may arise, particularly if we leave without a deal.

Any chance you could provide a link to anything that substantiates this allegation, please?

There was an article in the Times early September about how the military could be called upon to transport food and medicine, but I can’t find any substantive information on ‘the army can be brought in to quash civil unrest’.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/p...exit-frbbnjjqp

[RichardCoulter]

This was one of the articles that I read:

https://metro.co.uk/2018/09/09/polic...rexit-7928317/

[Dave42]

Major Brexit donor Arron Banks denies cash came from Russia - and changes mind about leaving EU

https://news.sky.com/story/major-bre...emain-11544655

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Dave42

Major Brexit donor Arron Banks denies cash came from Russia - and changes mind about leaving EU

https://news.sky.com/story/major-bre...emain-11544655

I think his comments about changing his mind are possibly a distraction technique.

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I think his comments about changing his mind are possibly a distraction technique.

yes could be

[Sephiroth]

None of this Banks stuff has anything to do with the current state of Brexit negotiations. Who gives a toss what Banks did or did not do?

Maybe some Remainers clutch at the re-run the Referendum straw, but that's about it.

We should be debating matters such as the Sunday Times report on the Northern Irish question; the reported insistence by some cabinet members that the Attorney General provides a written opinion on the upcoming deal (if there is one).

We leave the EU very soon and Aaron Banks doesn't figure in that scenario.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

None of this Banks stuff has anything to do with the current state of Brexit negotiations. Who gives a toss what Banks did or did not do?

Maybe some Remainers clutch at the re-run the Referendum straw, but that's about it.

You seem to have left the National Crime Agency and Electoral Commission off your list.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

You seem to have left the National Crime Agency and Electoral Commission off your list.

Another typical unengaging answer. Those agencies are not participating in this thread. How about you engage in substantive issues?

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

This was one of the articles that I read:

https://metro.co.uk/2018/09/09/polic...rexit-7928317/

Nothing in there about the army being used to quash civil unrest.

There appears to be the conflating of two separate points to arrive at an unsubstantiated conclusion.

Police preparing for riots and disorder in event of no-deal Brexit

They include the ‘real possibility’ of calling on military assistance

As I quoted previously, in less inflammatory versions of this story, the military would be called upon for transport and supply duties - no one (to the best of my knowledge) has shown any evidence that military personnel would be involved in riot control.

It’s an old tabloid trick - put two separate things close together, and hope readers will be fooled into thinking they are linked, thus stoking outrage/upset/whatever...

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Another typical unengaging answer. Those agencies are not participating in this thread. How about you engage in substantive issues?

If you post false information, then expect to be called out. If you can post links and extracts to articles you wish to debate then expect engagement. It really is that simple. And yes, links can be posted from tablets too.

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Nothing in there about the army being used to quash civil unrest.

There appears to be the conflating of two separate points to arrive at an unsubstantiated conclusion.

As I quoted previously, in less inflammatory versions of this story, the military would be called upon for transport and supply duties - no one (to the best of my knowledge) has shown any evidence that military personnel would be involved in riot control.

It’s an old tabloid trick - put two separate things close together, and hope readers will be fooled into thinking they are linked, thus stoking outrage/upset/whatever...

Good points. Probably also targeting the confirmation bias of its metropolitan Remain leadership in the same way that sister paper the Daily Mail plays to its majority Leave readership.

[Carth]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

. . targeting the confirmation bias of its metropolitan Remain leadership in the same way that sister paper the Daily Mail plays to its majority Leave readership.

Which probably sums up every media outlet and format, from tabloids to news programs. Isn't it great how the same 'story' can have so many different interpretations depending where you read/heard/saw it

oh, and let's not forget the infamous social media gossip platforms either

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Carth

Which probably sums up every media outlet and format, from tabloids to news programs. Isn't it great how the same 'story' can have so many different interpretations depending where you read/heard/saw it

oh, and let's not forget the infamous social media gossip platforms either

Truely impartial news is becoming more difficult to find. People just want news they like to hear. Whether it's true or not seems to be an after thought.

[Dave42]

Theresa May's chances of striking Irish border deal '50-50', say EU officials
EU and British red lines remain incompatible as negotiations enter final stage

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...y-eu-officials