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Old 22-10-2018, 12:04   #901
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Except that it has nothing to do with racism and everything to do with appalling criminal behaviour.
Correct..
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Re: Further Asian gang jailed for child abuse.

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A member of their own community has come out in a BBC interview and stated that he thinks it is a particular problem with Pakistani men because of their attitudes towards women.
Same particular problem that Catholic Priests have/had with their attitudes to young boys?
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Old 22-10-2018, 17:46   #903
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Re: Further Asian gang jailed for child abuse.

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Same particular problem that Catholic Priests have/had with their attitudes to young boys?
No, I think he meant beliefs of superiority towards women.

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Except that it has nothing to do with racism and everything to do with appalling criminal behaviour.
Absolutely, but since the measures put in place after the Stephen Lawrence enquiry, the police are reluctant to do anything that could be construed as racism. The same goes for the staff of local authorities, but that's more to do with ultra PC management.

Thankfully, these issues have now been recognised and measures are to be put in place to prevent a repetition (unless it was just lip service for the cameras).
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Old 22-10-2018, 19:51   #904
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No, I think he meant beliefs of superiority towards women.

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Absolutely, but since the measures put in place after the Stephen Lawrence enquiry, the police are reluctant to do anything that could be construed as racism. The same goes for the staff of local authorities, but that's more to do with ultra PC management.

Thankfully, these issues have now been recognised and measures are to be put in place to prevent a repetition (unless it was just lip service for the cameras).
The police should enforce, not ignore the law. The issue was nothing whatsoever to do with racism.

I thought everyone was supposed to be equal under the law? The 'establishment elite' appears to have done much in recent years to erode that principle. Unless this is corrected soon, this will end up with a backlash by the majority who believe that the law is not protecting them.
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Old 22-10-2018, 20:04   #905
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No, I think he meant beliefs of superiority towards women.
Do hear that flying over your head? It was my point.
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The police should enforce, not ignore the law. The issue was nothing whatsoever to do with racism.

I thought everyone was supposed to be equal under the law? The 'establishment elite' appears to have done much in recent years to erode that principle. Unless this is corrected soon, this will end up with a backlash by the majority who believe that the law is not protecting them.
Totally agree. Racial equality should not mean that Pakistanis get a free pass to break the law, as has clearly been the case due to public employees being too afraid to challenge and follow up complaints about people of colour.
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Old 22-10-2018, 20:22   #907
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Totally agree. Racial equality should not mean that Pakistanis get a free pass to break the law, as has clearly been the case due to public employees being too afraid to challenge and follow up complaints about people of colour.
Which is exactly what happens when you legislate to give legal rights only to minorities.

The law should give rights of fair treatment to the whole population. That would help to remove the confusion.
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Racial equality should not mean that Pakistanis get a free pass to break the law.
I understood that the vast majority were British.
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I understood that the vast majority were British.
Most people here are British, but it goes deeper than that:

White or White British
Black or Black British:
Asian or Asian British: Indian
Asian or Asian British: Pakistani
Asian or Asian British: Bangladeshi
Asian or Asian British: Chinese
Asian or Asian British: Other Asian
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Most people here are British, but it goes deeper than that:

White or White British
Black or Black British:
Asian or Asian British: Indian
Asian or Asian British: Pakistani
Asian or Asian British: Bangladeshi
Asian or Asian British: Chinese
Asian or Asian British: Other Asian
Or Yorkshire/Welsh and sunburnt
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Or Yorkshire/Welsh and sunburnt

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Most people here are British, but it goes deeper than that:

White or White British
Black or Black British:
Asian or Asian British: Indian
Asian or Asian British: Pakistani
Asian or Asian British: Bangladeshi
Asian or Asian British: Chinese
Asian or Asian British: Other Asian
And there are all the variations on Black and Mixed.

Still all human beings.
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But are there any Celtic British (natives) left.


Do not like it when the black Americans call their selves African Americans (just call your selves American).
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But are there any Celtic British (natives) left.


Do not like it when the black Americans call their selves African Americans (just call your selves American).
Me, my father/ grandfather were Scottish, great grandfather was Irish.

I’m 1st generation English. I don’t consider myself Scottish or Irish and have no affinity to either.
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All this emphasis on background, ethnic origin and colour just creases me up! For heaven's sake, we are all people, so what difference does it make? The more we play it up, the more the racists and other extremists grab hold of it as the spark for another campaign of intimidation and violence.

The sooner this stops being an issue and we can all treat each other according to our behaviour, the better.
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