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pip08456 · 14-10-2018, 11:04

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Erm, no.

We were called it when the 3 day week came into force, which was early 74 (I was there too) - before the EEC referendum.

Erm yes.

The EEC referendum was not about joining, we were already in and had been for a couple of years.

heero_yuy · 14-10-2018, 11:43

It also reached it's zenith during the winter of discontent. (78-79)

1andrew1 · 14-10-2018, 12:03

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Originally Posted by Dave42

you mean when we were sick man of Europe right

From being the sick man of Europe, through greater freedom of trade and competition that EU membership has contributed to, we have become one of the top European countries again. It's been a tough process but we got there.
The challenge is to retain this success post-Brexit and ensure that new technologies like electric cars are designed and made here in the UK and we don't become a side show to the rest of Europe.

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Originally Posted by pip08456

So you don't trust the EU either. You are obviously a very confused person.

This is not a footy match, Den doesn't have to support one side or the other.

**Mick** · 14-10-2018, 12:32

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

This is not a footy match, Den doesn't have to support one side or the other.

No, but he thinks the UK should be the one to bend over backwards because we exercised our democratic right to leave the EU, while the EU doesn't need to do anything, AKA, sweet FA.

1andrew1 · 14-10-2018, 12:33

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Originally Posted by pip08456

And that is the problem with economists, they can only go with the model they have.

They will update and refine those models.

**Mick** · 14-10-2018, 12:38

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

They will update and refine those models.

When their fictional predictions turned out to be project fear all along.

denphone · 14-10-2018, 12:47

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Originally Posted by Mick

No, but he thinks the UK should be the one to bend over backwards because we exercised our democratic right to leave the EU, while the EU doesn't need to do anything, AKA, sweet FA.

No l don't if you read my posts Mick.

1andrew1 · 14-10-2018, 13:20

At the moment, it seems to be perfidious Davis who is threatening a good deal for the country.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45853384

**Mick** · 14-10-2018, 15:19

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Originally Posted by denphone

No l don't if you read my posts Mick.

Yes you did Den...

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Originally Posted by denphone

So HMG is not being difficult in the negotiations either? as yes the EU are being difficult but they are not the ones who are pulling out of the EU as its up to Theresa May and her government at the end of the day to come to a agreement with the EU

I read your post and that's exactly what you inferred.

denphone · 14-10-2018, 15:33

They are the government at the end of the day so its up to them to come to a amicable agreement with the EU..

**Damien** · 14-10-2018, 15:34

A German newspaper claims they've seen the withdrawal bill and it'll be announced tomorrow: https://www.sueddeutsche.de/politik/...ehen-1.4168879

**Hugh** · 14-10-2018, 15:36

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Originally Posted by pip08456

Erm yes.

The EEC referendum was not about joining, we were already in and had been for a couple of years.

We joined the 1st of January 1973, and the 3 day week came into force at Midnight 31st December 1973, so it wasn’t a couple of years...

Sephiroth · 14-10-2018, 17:11

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Originally Posted by Hugh

We joined the 1st of January 1973, and the 3 day week came into force at Midnight 31st December 1973, so it wasn’t a couple of years...

The 3 day week was brought about by the then Corbynite equivalent; Scargill & McGachy who prevented electricity from being generated. This sort of thing rattled on for years until Thatcher squashed it.

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Originally Posted by Damien

A German newspaper claims they've seen the withdrawal bill and it'll be announced tomorrow: https://www.sueddeutsche.de/politik/...ehen-1.4168879

I have read the article. It may well get through the EU approvers. It would need a “frist” as in a definite end date rather than a hoped for end date for the Customs Union - in other words imo, a fudge is no longer an option. Getting it through our Parliament is thus in a knife edge.

OLD BOY · 14-10-2018, 17:17

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Originally Posted by denphone

They are the government at the end of the day so its up to them to come to a amicable agreement with the EU..

They government has come up with several amicable solutions, but the EU is not listening. It is quite good at the art of 'non'!

Given that ee have come up with proposals and the EU are just standing there with arms folded, I really don't see how you can blame this on the government.

David Cameron came up with some very modest proposals and was rebuffed. The EU is just intransigent and doesn't have a democratic bone in its body of officials. I don't see why you want to defend them and place all the blame on May.

You still haven't told us what you would do in her place.

pip08456 · 14-10-2018, 17:51

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Originally Posted by Hugh

We joined the 1st of January 1973, and the 3 day week came into force at Midnight 31st December 1973, so it wasn’t a couple of years...

You are correct this time.