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Mr K · 17-07-2018, 15:09

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Originally Posted by Mick

Didn't you get the Memo?

Brexiteer MPs forced May's hands yesterday and 4 ERG Amendments were made.

Liam Fox didn't get the memo, he thinks nothing's changed.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44857687

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Liam Fox said it did not change policy as the amendments had been "cut and pasted" from the PM's Chequers plan.

She's just fobbing then off with the amendments, as a leadership challenge had to mounted before tomorrow if its to be done before the summer recess. She's a canny old bird TM, I'll give her that. The EU will throw out these amendments anyway.

Don't you find it scary that it's still only a few months to Brexit, and the 'Governing' party still hasn't haven't agreed with itself let alone the EU ?

**Mick** · 17-07-2018, 15:27

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Originally Posted by Dave42

but your happy with a corrupt campaign that cheated it about rule of law here say if remain cheated you think brexiteers would stay quiet no way

The Remain camp cheated as well.

Do you think I was happy with the pathetic government leaflet with which Tax payers money was spent advocating to Remain in the EU - that should never have been allowed ?

Do you think I was happy with U.S President Barack Obama at the time, interfering and threatening people to vote remain ?

No I was not - despite ALL this and the other Bullshit going on, on BOTH sides, one side clearly won - you cannot invalidate the result because you feel aggrieved your side did not win when both campaigns centered on the same rules, despite the BS claims today that Leave camp over spent - Remain camp still spent far more and got added bonuses on top of this, the government leaflet and Obama's push, to try push people to vote Remain - but people were smart enough to make up their own minds.

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Originally Posted by Mr K

Liam Fox didn't get the memo, he thinks nothing's changed.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44857687

She's just fobbing then off with the amendments, as a leadership challenge had to mounted before tomorrow if its to be done before the summer recess. She's a canny old bird TM, I'll give her that. The EU will throw out these amendments anyway.

Don't you find it scary that it's still only a few months to Brexit, and the 'Governing' party still hasn't haven't agreed with itself let alone the EU ?

If the EU reject the amendments it's a no deal Brexit. Suits me. We need to leave that absolutely disgustingly corrupt EU with a certain President Juncker who turns up to important meetings, pissed as a fart.

Dave42 · 17-07-2018, 15:35

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Originally Posted by Mick

The Remain camp cheated as well.

Do you think I was happy with the pathetic government leaflet with which Tax payers money was spent advocating to Remain in the EU - that should never have been allowed ?

Do you think I was happy with U.S President Barack Obama at the time, interfering and threatening people to vote remain ?

No I was not - despite ALL this and the other Bullshit going on, on BOTH sides, one side clearly won - you cannot invalidate the result because you feel aggrieved your side did not win when both campaigns centered on the same rules, despite the BS claims today that Leave camp over spent - Remain camp still spent far more and got added bonuses on top of this, the government leaflet and Obama's push, to try push people to vote Remain - but people were smart enough to make up their own minds.

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If the EU reject the amendments it's a no deal Brexit. Suits me. We need to leave that absolutely disgustingly corrupt EU with a certain President Juncker who turns up to important meetings, pissed as a fart.

I was against that leaflet too yes was wrong for tax payer to pay for that we agree totally

he did that because idiot David Cameron asked him too and that probably made sure leave won in end

parliament will not let that happen no matter what JRM wants as WTO rules mean got to be hard border with Ireland and Northern Ireland then between Spain and Gibraltar DUP will never allow hard border with Ireland and end of peace processes totally

Mr K · 17-07-2018, 15:35

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Originally Posted by Mick

If the EU reject the amendments it's a no deal Brexit. Suits me. We need to leave that absolutely disgustingly corrupt EU with a certain President Juncker who turns up to important meetings, pissed as a fart.

Ooff have you had a meeting with Juncker Mick ?

Hate to disappoint but 'no deal' is not and never has been an option.
May admitted as much at the weekend when asked what extra staff were being recruited or holding areas in ports had been in case of no deal - there hasn't been any.
Our position becomes weaker all the time because of the Govt's indecision; the EU hold all the cards. We'll have to get a deal, but it's increasingly looking like we'll be forced into a bad one. 'No deal is better than a bad deal' was utter baloney.

papa smurf · 17-07-2018, 15:54

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Originally Posted by Mr K

Ooff have you had a meeting with Juncker Mick ?

Hate to disappoint but 'no deal' is not and never has been an option.
May admitted as much at the weekend when asked what extra staff were being recruited or holding areas in ports had been in case of no deal - there hasn't been any.
Our position becomes weaker all the time because of the Govt's indecision; the EU hold all the cards. We'll have to get a deal, but it's increasingly looking like we'll be forced into a bad one. 'No deal is better than a bad deal' was utter baloney.

May-may not have the job very shortly

**Damien** · 17-07-2018, 15:56

I think the most likely scenario is that we provisionally agree to do a deal and then use the transition period to actually work out what that is. The UK isn't set up for a hard Brexit.

Mr K · 17-07-2018, 16:10

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

May-may not have the job very shortly

Well unless the MPs act by tomorrow they're going to have to wait till the autumn. She's played them very well with her 'concessions'. Gone up in my estimation as a survivor I must admit.
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Originally Posted by Damien

I think the most likely scenario is that we provisionally agree to do a deal and then use the transition period to actually work out what that is. The UK isn't set up for a hard Brexit.

Isn't that a complete oxymoron ? Agree a deal, just work out what it is later

Seems about right for these negotiations.

Dave42 · 17-07-2018, 16:13

European Union signs its biggest ever trade deal after striking agreement with Japan

https://news.sky.com/story/european-...japan-11439525

**Damien** · 17-07-2018, 16:15

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Originally Posted by Dave42

European Union signs its biggest ever trade deal after striking agreement with Japan

https://news.sky.com/story/european-...japan-11439525

Slowing economy we're best to be rid off apparently.

Dave42 · 17-07-2018, 16:17

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Originally Posted by Damien

Slowing economy we're best to be rid off apparently.

aye reality will hit them eventually

jonbxx · 17-07-2018, 16:33

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Originally Posted by Dave42

European Union signs its biggest ever trade deal after striking agreement with Japan

https://news.sky.com/story/european-...japan-11439525

But is it a red, white and blue trade deal? Common sense states that, as a market of 65 million customers we are going to get a better than a market of 508 million does

denphone · 17-07-2018, 18:31

John Major with some harsh blunt words about the Brexiteers in his party.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-politics-live

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Sir John Major, the Conservative former prime minister, has told ITV News that the Tory Brexiters are “more committed and hardline” than the Eurosceptics who disrupted his government in the 1990s.

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In other words, without using the same language, he is telling Theresa May that her *******s are worse than his *******s.

Dave42 · 17-07-2018, 18:48

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Originally Posted by denphone

John Major with some harsh blunt words about the Brexiteers in his party.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-politics-live

general election coming soon Den they more divided than ever and infighting will only get worse

denphone · 17-07-2018, 18:58

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Originally Posted by Dave42

general election coming soon Den they more divided than ever and infighting will only get worse

Changing the words slightly from the great Oliver Hardy famous catch phrase " Well, here's another fine mess we have gotten into"

jonbxx · 17-07-2018, 21:05

It looks like parliament have voted to stay in the European Medicines Agency. Great news for continued rapid drug access and the pharmaceutical industry (big sigh of relief where I work too!)