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		|  18-05-2018, 16:57 | #2716 |  
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					Originally Posted by RizzyKing  Damien despite what some people are constantly saying people did know what they were voting for total and complete withdrawal from the EU and everything that entails and quite a lot voted that way knowing we'd have a period of uncertainty and economic decline.  We've been told numerous times that we're leaving the customs union and single market which is what we voted for and anything less then that is ignoring a rather large percentage of the UK public.  As i said the damage that will be done if we don't leave fully and completely could be very bad for this country. |  Don't know where you got this idea from. Even Daniel Hannan says otherwise.
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		|  18-05-2018, 17:14 | #2717 |  
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			Did love this tweet about Brexit.  Probably the best analogy I've seen:https://twitter.com/PickardJE/status/996821085575434240 
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		| Brexit fast becoming a holiday which half the family didn’t want to go on and now the car is stuck in a traffic jam and mum and dad are arguing over the map 
 we seem to have been around the same roundabout a dozen times and its name is customs arrangement
 
 and now someone has suggested a board game
 
 they are arguing over the map because no one brought the map
 
 dad keeps saying how everyone will love Pontins when they get there, it was great back in the day
 
 the first drops of rain are starting to fall
 
 the holiday, like every holiday in the history of holidays, has been more expensive than anticipated
 
 and the cry goes up from the back:
 
 are.
 we.
 nearly.
 there.
 yet?
 
 Labour are the family next door who are also going to Pontins which is puzzling when they supposedly don’t like Pontins
 
 it will be dark in a couple of hours
 
 the “transition period” involves a lengthy stay at the Watford Gap service station while dad struggles to change a tyre
 
 mum is silently contemplating divorce but fears the alternative could be worse
 
 one of the kids is googling “Abilene Paradox”
 
 the backseat driving has begun
 
 Dave, who lent the brochure, isn't coming on the trip
 
 the car has no brakes
 
 the kids want cake even though they’ve eaten the cake
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		|  18-05-2018, 18:47 | #2718 |  
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			Except that more than half who expressed an interest did want to go.
		 
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		|  18-05-2018, 22:26 | #2719 |  
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					Originally Posted by Bircho   |  It's very funny, a good find. Credit to its author, Jim Pickard of the FT.
 
Particularly like the lines "Labour are the family next door who are also going to Pontins which is puzzling when they supposedly don’t like Pontins" and "Dave, who lent the brochure, isn't coming on the trip"    |  
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		|  21-05-2018, 23:58 | #2720 |  
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			Just need the rest of the country to follow suit    
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		| Northern Ireland would vote more strongly to remain in the EU if there was another Brexit poll, a study has suggested. A total of 69 per cent would favour Remain if there was another referendum compared with 56 per cent in the result two years ago, the UK in a Changing Europe project said.
 Catholics were more likely to support a united Ireland if there was a “hard exit” in which the UK left the customs union and single market.
 The Irish border is one of the most vexed questions facing negotiators who aim to strike a deal by autumn, before Britain’s withdrawal from the EU next year.
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		|  23-05-2018, 10:39 | #2721 |  
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			https://news.sky.com/story/carney-se...comes-11381658
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		| Mark Carney has claimed the Brexit vote has left households £900 worse off annually, describing the sum as "a lot of money." 
 The governor of the Bank of England made his remarks while giving evidence of a committee of MPs, stating his belief that the effects of the EU referendum in June 2016 had lowered the UK's GDP by 2%.
 |  £900 a year is what it's costing you folks, to get the country back from God knows who .... And our economic growth has ground to a halt, however the Eurozone steams ahead.  
Brexit hasn't even happened yet, this is just the reaction to the prospect of it.  Never mind Boris is ordering a new Jet for Brexit business, hope he's not raiding all that NHS money he promised.
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		|  23-05-2018, 11:08 | #2722 |  
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					Originally Posted by Mr K  https://news.sky.com/story/carney-se...comes-11381658
£900 a year is what it's costing you folks, to get the country back from God knows who .... And our economic growth has ground to a halt, however the Eurozone steams ahead.  
Brexit hasn't even happened yet, this is just the reaction to the prospect of it.  Never mind Boris is ordering a new Jet for Brexit business, hope he's not raiding all that NHS money he promised. |  If your unhappy pack your bags and jump on the Euro star for a better life in EUtopia , better hurry the offer ends in march .
		 
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		|  23-05-2018, 12:19 | #2723 |  
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			Mark Carney has claimed the Brexit vote has left households £900 worse off annually, describing the sum as "a lot of money."
 He's just another Euro lover that needs to hide the fact he's pretty useless at his job.
 
 Was it the Brexit vote that has increased oil prices?
 
 Was it the Brexit vote that pushed the local councils into the desperate attempts to 'save' £millions every year on their budgets?
 
 Was it the Brexit vote that has decimated the high streets, or caused the ongoing closures of many named companies?
 
 Was it the Brexit vote that has held interest rates at low levels for years?
 
 Was it the Brexit vote that encouraged the shenanigans of the bankers/traders - something we're still paying for?
 
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		|  23-05-2018, 12:36 | #2724 |  
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			Mark Carney's predictions are as reliable as a 3 month ahead weather forecast. He has been consitently wrong post Brexit and continues in vein.
 The reduction in growth to near zero in the first quarter of this year was dominated by a fall in the construction sector of ~6%, mainly due to the appaling weather and precious little to do with Brexit.
 
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		|  23-05-2018, 16:15 | #2725 |  
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					Originally Posted by heero_yuy  Mark Carney's predictions are as reliable as a 3 month ahead weather forecast. He has been consitently wrong post Brexit and continues in vein.
 The reduction in growth to near zero in the first quarter of this year was dominated by a fall in the construction sector of ~6%, mainly due to the appaling weather and precious little to do with Brexit.
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		|  23-05-2018, 18:15 | #2726 |  
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			Ah bless MrK found himself something to cheer him up hopefully he'll quit while he's ahead and go enjoy a drink in his garden.  Carney is about as reliable as a north korean takeaway the guy has a lousy track record and hopefully when he goes we will get somebody a lot better.  Even if it were true it's a price many of us are willing to pay to get out of the EU hell double and triple it still a bargain to be out of the EU and not long now till we are out.
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		|  23-05-2018, 19:50 | #2727 |  
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					Originally Posted by RizzyKing  Ah bless MrK found himself something to cheer him up hopefully he'll quit while he's ahead and go enjoy a drink in his garden.  Carney is about as reliable as a north korean takeaway the guy has a lousy track record and hopefully when he goes we will get somebody a lot better.  Even if it were true it's a price many of us are willing to pay to get out of the EU hell double and triple it still a bargain to be out of the EU and not long now till we are out. |  Very true, although I must say I don't remember losing that £900.
 
I guess the rich bods must have skewed the average somewhat!!
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		|  23-05-2018, 20:48 | #2728 |  
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			I am sure someone will be along with the right figures if the Bank of England is wrong in their summary of the economy over the last couple of years....
 The question is why, if Mark Carney is so bad, did the government want him to extend his contract?
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		|  23-05-2018, 21:10 | #2729 |  
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			Failing upwards seems to be the norm these days boris johnson is proof of that Jon.
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		|  23-05-2018, 21:49 | #2730 |  
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					Originally Posted by jonbxx  I am sure someone will be along with the right figures if the Bank of England is wrong in their summary of the economy over the last couple of years....
 The question is why, if Mark Carney is so bad, did the government want him to extend his contract?
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					Originally Posted by RizzyKing  Failing upwards seems to be the norm these days boris johnson is proof of that Jon. |  It looked to me as though in the days after the referendum Carney was the only person in high office who wasn't  sat there wide eyed like a rabbit in the headlights, I remember seeing headlines in papers like the express that he saved 250 000 jobs in the immediate aftermath whilst the only jobs Dave and Gideon were concerned about were there own.
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