Government & Post Election Discussion

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Mick

There should be targets set to control illegal immigration. The UK is a small Island, we cannot sustain 300K immigrants per year, we already have a chronic housing shortage...

l am not saying there should not be targets set but there are fair and reasonable targets which are perfectly fine but what is not fine is treating people who have worked here , lived here . paid their taxes here , etc , etc inhumanely and cruelly as that is appalling and unacceptable in anybody's mind....

Sajid Javid has replaced Rudd as Home Secretary.

Originally Posted by Mick

There should be targets set to control illegal immigration. The UK is a small Island, we cannot sustain 300K immigrants per year, we already have a chronic housing shortage...

The problem is that there isn't a clear legal/illegal status for many people and when you add targets that staff are compelled to meet then in those situations the default position would be deportation rather than caution and that is what happened here.

The position should be that all illegal immigrants are deported when found but there isn't any point being a arbitrary number on it. For a start we don't have definitive numbers on how many of them there...

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Mick

There should be targets set to control illegal immigration.

Exactly what May has said on Sky news earlier.

[1andrew1]

The logical target would be a percentage, not a value. So, deport 95% of illegal immigrants in 12 months for example not deport 100,000 illegal immigrants.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

The logical target would be a percentage, not a value. So, deport 95% of illegal immigrants in 12 months for example not deport 100,000 illegal immigrants.

For all I or you know the target could be expressed as a percentage.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by pip08456

For all I or you know the target could be expressed as a percentage.

This article suggests a number. https://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...-a3826551.html

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

This article suggests a number. https://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...-a3826551.html

I was responding to your post that a percentage was a logical way of setting a target. The 2,800 quoted was for enforced repatriation. Neither add up.

Their cannot be a percentage set as a target for illegal immigration as the total figure is an unknown. For every one illegal immigrant there are possilbly another 5 unknown That is the nature if illegal immigration, no-one ever know the true figure. Many may never be detected.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Mick

Sajid Javid has replaced Rudd as Home Secretary.

Smart move, put someone who isn't white in charge of kicking other non white people out of the country, we won't see through that

[1andrew1]

I think this is unlikely but interesting that it's even being mentioned nonetheless:

Tory MPs prepare for snap autumn election as Theresa May hit by Brexit deadlock
Conservative MPs are preparing for another snap general election as they fear the Brexit deadlock will become insurmountable for the prime minister.
Some have spoken to their local party associations asking to be readopted as prospective parliamentary candidates in readiness for an autumn election.
The back-bench MPs acted after meeting Theresa May last week for a private Brexit briefing as she tried to stop a row over Britain’s future customs relationship with the European Union tearing the party apart.
But far from being reassured by meeting the prime minister, they left Downing Street convinced that another election could be around the corner.

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[denphone]

Ye who place their faith in politicians...

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I think this is unlikely but interesting that it's even being mentioned nonetheless:

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Well, what choice is there if we have deadlock? I think it is a very real possibility, and this time Brexit will be the central issue. This is where we get the opportunity to kick out those who are steadfastly attempting to overturn the wishes of the electorate.

The only question I have is whether the Conservative Party will allow Theresa May to continue as Leader for another election, given the last mash up.

[tweetiepooh]

Mrs May is not good at publicity which is (unfortunately) too big a thing for the party to ignore. You could be the best at the job but if you can't show as being good at the PR stuff your chances are much diminished.

I can imagine the LD would be licking their lips at the chance to get in and throw the whole referendum out, after all an election win would be a mandate not to proceed.

The question is what would convince them the outcome would be much different? The local elections might encourage the Tories in that Corbyn hasn't made further inroads it still suggested a hung Parliament, in fact it suggested one in much Labour are the biggest party.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by tweetiepooh

Mrs May is not good at publicity which is (unfortunately) too big a thing for the party to ignore. You could be the best at the job but if you can't show as being good at the PR stuff your chances are much diminished.

I can imagine the LD would be licking their lips at the chance to get in and throw the whole referendum out, after all an election win would be a mandate not to proceed.

I would imagine tnat would be the case, but they would soon realise that they have sorely misjudged the mood of the electorate on this.