Brexit discussion - Page 143

OLD BOY · 20-02-2018, 19:03

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

And he's setting the bar low, really low, I thought it was a joke when I first heard it

Sorry, but that is a ridiculous argument. He was answering those remoaners who were painting this picture.

As you well know.

jonbxx · 20-02-2018, 20:27

It looks like the Dutch are now preparing for a hard Brexit by recruiting more customs officers - https://news.sky.com/story/dutch-act...he-uk-11258568

In other news, 11 months after invoking Article 50, the Prime Minister is hosting a summit to thrash out the UK Brexit negotiating position - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...it-summit.html

Note, I do not endorse the Daily Mail, I thinks it’s an awful paper but I thought it might be more palatable than other news sources

1andrew1 · 20-02-2018, 21:45

JC is now putting pressure on the Government with his statement that the UK must have a customs union with the EU. He's playing Brexit quite shrewdly, following the public mood as it moves away from Brexit but not alienating the many leavers in his party and beyond.

TheDaddy · 20-02-2018, 22:27

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Sorry, but that is a ridiculous argument. He was answering those remoaners who were painting this picture.

As you well know.

What if the majority of us want to live in a mad max dystopian wasteland, why won't that man respect the will of the people. Let me guess brexit won't cause this future outcome but electing Corbyn will, let me paint a picture neither outcome will make that much difference to the vast majority of us, we'll just plod along as before brexit or before Jez or before Trump or before who or what ever.

1andrew1 · 20-02-2018, 23:07

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

What if the majority of us want to live in a mad max dystopian wasteland, why won't that man respect the will of the people. Let me guess brexit won't cause this future outcome but electing Corbyn will, let me paint a picture neither outcome will make that much difference to the vast majority of us, we'll just plod along as before brexit or before Jez or before Trump or before who or what ever.

I think DD was throwing a bone to the Brextremists before telling them that regulatory alignment will pretty much continue as the world operates to increasingly global standards.

1andrew1 · 21-02-2018, 13:54

Brextremists. Look away!

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Brexit: Britain asks EU to consider longer transition period
The British government has asked the EU to consider granting the UK a longer Brexit transition period than the one proposed by Brussels, documents drawn up by negotiators show.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a8220976.html

denphone · 21-02-2018, 13:59

For once l agree with the government.

Mr K · 21-02-2018, 14:18

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Brextremists. Look away!

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a8220976.html

It's almost as if we don't want to leave...

We triggered article 50 and chose the date. No point in begging for a reprieve now.

1andrew1 · 21-02-2018, 16:54

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Originally Posted by Mr K

It's almost as if we don't want to leave...

We triggered article 50 and chose the date. No point in begging for a reprieve now.

Press now reporting no leave date put into transition request from the UK!
https://www.ft.com/content/a613ac10-...c-25c814761640

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In other news, rumours abound that Unilever will consoilidate its HQ in the Netherlands, attributed to Brexit uncertainty but let's see what the company says first.

papa smurf · 21-02-2018, 17:53

yawn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFW6yUlgGdI

**Hugh** · 21-02-2018, 18:38

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

yawn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFW6yUlgGdI

OLD BOY · 21-02-2018, 20:04

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Brextremists. Look away!

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a8220976.html

I'm not concerned about increasing the transition period. It is, after all, an implementation period, and it will take as long as it takes.

However, what the government should be pressing for is a freeze in those EU laws that continue to apply to us during that time (or alternatively a right of veto on new EU legislation) and we should have the right to forge our own trade deals as well.

I would be flexible on freedom of movement during that period, although some may not be happy with that.

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Originally Posted by Hugh

That's just the remoaners having another hissy fit.

jonbxx · 21-02-2018, 20:27

Definitely some ‘can kicking’ there... Tow possible reasons spring to mind - the first is that would we won’t have a deal by the end of 2020 despite Liam Fox saying this one be one of the ‘easiest in human history’.

The second reason is that we have a general election in 2022. If things go pear shaped or look bad at the end of 2020, it will be some tough spinning to make the government look good in the following year or so.

Personally, I think it’s a bit from column a and a bit from column b

ianch99 · 21-02-2018, 20:45

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Originally Posted by jonbxx

Definitely some ‘can kicking’ there... Tow possible reasons spring to mind - the first is that would we won’t have a deal by the end of 2020 despite Liam Fox saying this one be one of the ‘easiest in human history’.

The second reason is that we have a general election in 2022. If things go pear shaped or look bad at the end of 2020, it will be some tough spinning to make the government look good in the following year or so.

Personally, I think it’s a bit from column a and a bit from column b

Nothing from the 5th column then?

**Mick** · 21-02-2018, 21:55

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

That's just the remoaners having another hissy fit.

Indeed, another toy/pram moment. Easily ignored.