Brexit discussion

[denphone]

Originally Posted by tweetiepooh

Both sides speak with forked tongue and weasel words.

With a few exceptions politicians are seeking the best outcome for politicians.

I would expect differences though even within parties because our MP's represent differing constituencies that voted differently in the referendum and are affected differently. That said they should be working together to ensure the best outcome not flying off the rails with doom and gloom predictions and no solutions.

Very true tweetiepooh.

[heero_yuy]

Quote from The Express:


Lord Lamont has blasted EU cheerleader Anna Soubry after the Remoaner accused Brexiteers of not being “proper Tories” and threatened to start a rival political party.

Responding to comments on BBC Newsnight, the former Conservative Chancellor said the Broxtowe MP’s rhetoric was “ridiculous”.

He said: “I think that’s quite ridiculous frankly.

“I don’t want to be rude about Anna Soubry but I think she does tend sometimes to go over the top and I think she’s doing that here.

Not too impressed then?

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by tweetiepooh

Both sides speak with forked tongue and weasel words.

With a few exceptions politicians are seeking the best outcome for politicians.

I would expect differences though even within parties because our MP's represent differing constituencies that voted differently in the referendum and are affected differently. That said they should be working together to ensure the best outcome not flying off the rails with doom and gloom predictions and no solutions.

Nothing to worry about, tweetiepooh. There will be a deal and Andrew will be aghast.

Then, the rest of the world will be ours!

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Nothing to worry about, tweetiepooh. There will be a deal and Andrew will be aghast.

Then, the rest of the world will be ours!

the rest of the world is ours at the moment, thanks to being in the trading bloc that has the highest number of free trade deals of any trading bloc in the world. We'll lose it all in 2020.
Doubtless, there will be a poor deal with the EU which the Brexiters will drool over but the sane world will be pitying of. How it will all square with no border between the two Irelands I do not know.

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

the rest of the world is ours at the moment, thanks to being in the trading bloc that has the highest number of free trade deals of any trading bloc in the world. We'll lose it all in 2020.
Doubtless, there will be a poor deal with the EU which the Brexiters will drool over but the sane world will be pitying of. How it will all square with no border between the two Irelands I do not know.

well said

Well i suppose if it's going to be so bad in the UK after brexit there will be quite a few leaving our shores for the utopian paradise across the channel as it's unheard of for there to be problems across the channel only the UK will have problems. Ah well be sad to see em go but much like life outside of the EU we will initially survive to prosper later.

The Irish border thing is another thing some Remainers cling on to as a major issue when it's not.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Well i suppose if it's going to be so bad in the UK after brexit there will be quite a few leaving our shores for the utopian paradise across the channel as it's unheard of for there to be problems across the channel only the UK will have problems. Ah well be sad to see em go but much like life outside of the EU we will initially survive to prosper later.

You were itching to join them a few days ago.

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

This country gets more pathetic day by day how i wish i had the money to get the hell out.

Yes and if i had the money I'd be gone I'm so sick of a sizable portion of the population that have turned into thin skinned moaning gits that do nothing but spurt negatives all day long. As for the irish border it's this hard we say things stay as they are, Eire says things stay as they are job done all sorted unless the EU have a problem with that.

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by Mick

The Irish border thing is another thing some Remainers cling on to as a major issue when it's not.

the Irish will take issue with you on that one it matters

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Dave42

the Irish will take issue with you on that one it matters

And the EU

The EU side is within weeks of publishing a legal text of December’s Brexit divorce agreement that would lay out exactly how Northern Ireland might need to “align” with the union’s single market — a move that would give much greater definition to the ambiguously worded deal.
Senior negotiators see the Irish border issue as the single biggest risk in talks before a March EU summit, in which Britain is hoping to agree a transition deal and begin trade talks. “If this blows up over the next two months it will be over Ireland,” said one senior EU figure involved in talks. “That is the flashpoint.”

https://www.ft.com/content/ee480ee6-...7-42f857ea9f09

[Carth]

it'll be a smugglers paradise will that Irish sea

How much is an old gunboat nowadays?

[1andrew1]

More on the crucial Irish border situation

Ireland is pushing for a settled “legal text” over the border question as early as next month in a move that threatens once again to derail the Brexit negotiations, The Daily Telegraph has learned.
Simon Coveney, Ireland’s minister for foreign affairs and trade, is understood to have made Dublin’s uncompromising position clear to British counterparts, putting further pressure on Theresa May to make hard decisions on the future relationship between Ireland and the United Kingdom

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018...-threat-talks/

[Gavin78]

Leaked EU document shows Brexit 'punishment plan'

https://news.sky.com/story/leaked-eu...-plan-11239487


Theresa May's chief Brexit tormentor, Jacob Rees-Mogg, has stepped up his pressure on the Prime Minister after claims the EU plans to punish the UK during a transition period.

According to an incendiary threat contained in a leaked Brussels document, the EU wants the power to restrict the UK's access to the single market during a transition period and impose big trade tariffs

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

More on the crucial Irish border situation

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018...-threat-talks/

Noooo didn't you read the post 5 above, we say things stay as they are and that's an end to it, the whole thing really is that easy, job done, piece of piss, no need to send a text or go legal.

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Originally Posted by Gavin78

Leaked EU document shows Brexit 'punishment plan'

https://news.sky.com/story/leaked-eu...-plan-11239487


Theresa May's chief Brexit tormentor, Jacob Rees-Mogg, has stepped up his pressure on the Prime Minister after claims the EU plans to punish the UK during a transition period.

According to an incendiary threat contained in a leaked Brussels document, the EU wants the power to restrict the UK's access to the single market during a transition period and impose big trade tariffs

No cash contributions then and they can stick this fair playing field malarkey to if they carry on seems like a reasonable response imo