Brexit discussion

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Mick

Rubbish, I, as a proud leave voter, do not in any way feel misled. I would vote leave, again and again and AGAIN!

To feel like we need to be associated with the corrupt EU, is in a more narrow minded way of thinking.

We certainly do not and leave that horrible and crap institution we must.

I sense you're wavering Mick

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Bags of assumptions there on their political leanings and pretty much all wrong. I've met lots of civil servants. For their sins 90% voted Brexit and said it's the best thing ever to happen to their careers. Umlike most people on the UK. they're probably right. So if anything, their analysis would be pro-Brexit.

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Good news for hardworking Brits - common sense may be on the rise!

https://www.ft.com/content/f4775024-...0-9c0ad2d7c5b5

90%? Sorry, but that stretches credibility to the extreme!

A majority of right leaning people choose to go into the private sector. That makes sense, surely?

I was one of a minority on the right of centre who elected to go into public service, and I can tell you it was pretty frustrating at times.

Originally Posted by Mr K

I sense you're wavering Mick

Your senses are way off the mark.

Roll on Brexit. Best thing to happen to this country by a long shot.

[heero_yuy]

Quote from Bloomberg:


The U.K. must not enter into a new customs union with the European Union after it leaves the bloc, Trade Secretary Liam Fox said, setting a new red line for Theresa May’s negotiations with Brussels and her own party on Brexit.

Fox, a long-standing euroskeptic, told Bloomberg that the U.K. must not sign up to the EU’s common external tariff, which binds all EU member countries to the same rates. His comments follow a report in the Financial Times that said May’s officials are considering keeping Britain in a new customs union, and the external tariff arrangement.

“It is very difficult to see how being in a customs union is compatible with having an independent trade policy because we would therefore be dependent on what the EU negotiated in terms of its trading policies and we’d be following behind that,” Fox said Friday in Shanghai. “One of the reasons we are leaving the European Union is to take control, and that’s not possible with a common external tariff.”

Fox’s comments represent a potentially explosive intervention in the U.K. political debate at a time when the Cabinet remains divided on the kind of relationship Britain should seek with the EU after it leaves. The country’s main business lobby wants the U.K. to remain in the customs union, and the opposition Labour Party is advocating a similar arrangement.

It cannot be any clearer, said again today....

Theresa May: "UK will leave Customs Union and negotiate free-trade deal."

Good, as it should be. Leave is not leave when one foot is in still in the door.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Mick

It cannot be any clearer, said again today....

Theresa May: "UK will leave Customs Union and negotiate free-trade deal."

Good, as it should be. Leave is not leave when one foot is in still in the door.

I think the lady keeps changing her mind, but that's women for you

Her cabinet is split and she has to say whatever to please the latest rebel of the day.

But Theresa May, asked by Sky News whether Britain could stay in a customs union with the EU, did not rule it out. “What I want to do is ensure that we have got the best possible trade agreements with China and with other countries around the world once we have left the European Union,”

Originally Posted by Mr K

I think the lady keeps changing her mind, but that's women for you

Her cabinet is split and she has to say whatever to please the latest rebel of the day.

"That's women for you"... That's a very Anti-Feminist remark, Mr K. The pussy wearing hat brigade would not be happy with you.

Leaving the EU is leaving the Single Market and Customs Union. We will not and should not be staying in it.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Mr K

I sense you're wavering Mick

I'm still hoping to be told how I was misled and what it is I was apparently hoping to be led towards.

If you voted leave Russ it was all because of the leave campaign and the red bus the remain campaign didn't mislead or exaggerate in anyway at all and the only realists were on the remain side. We leave voters are all europe hating fantasists that have lost touch with reality that seems to be the general consensus of some on here.

[Mr K]

tbh a lot of Brexit voters don't seem very happy and are complaining all the time. They keep repeating the reasons for their decision almost to convince themselves. Time to celebrate, you 'won' surely , everything is wonderful ! If it and our strong and stable govt are leading you where you and your family want to be, great

[denphone]

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

If you voted leave Russ it was all because of the leave campaign and the red bus the remain campaign didn't mislead or exaggerate in anyway at all and the only realists were on the remain side. We leave voters are all europe hating fantasists that have lost touch with reality that seems to be the general consensus of some on here.

What one or two members as don't stereotype the rest of us Rizzy.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Russ

1st time I've posted in this thread. I voted leave.

Am I a racist bigot? Asking for a friend.

I find this post very strange.

Firstly, no one asks someone to ask a bunch of strangers if they are a racist bigot.

Secondly, everyone knows that people voted leave for a whole spectrum of reasons ranging from a objective assessments based on what evidence there was at the time to hatred of foreigners.

You will find all sorts of reasons people voted Leave so pretending to ask the question: "Am I a racist bigot because I voted leave" is like Ali G responding with the question "Is it because I is Black?"

The question is a joke ...

No the question isn't a joke at all there have been many insinuations of racism as a motivation for voting leave and no matter how many people say it wasn't a factor it's ignored and the insinuation continues. This referendum bought out the worst in people on both sides and no one side has a monopoly on arrogance, ignorance, nastiness or naivety it was equally present on both sides.

[jonbxx]

I think the family of Jo Cox might disagree about both sides being equally nasty

Originally Posted by jonbxx

I think the family of Jo Cox might disagree about both sides being equally nasty

You can't define entire groups by people who live on the extremes. A far-right terrorist is no-where near the same as a normal leave voter. People like the one who murdered Jo Cox are nasty hate-filled murderers obsessed with traitors etc.