Brexit discussion

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Mick

There is nothing to realise. Mr K.

No panic here. Looking forward to leaving still.

May be not for you Mick, but I sense those with a lot to lose financially are having the 'wobbles'.

Anyway, glad, that you're glad, you're leaving

Originally Posted by Mr K

May be not for you Mick, but I sense those with a lot to lose financially are having the 'wobbles'.

Anyway, glad, that you're glad, you're leaving

No dude, we’re leaving together.

You’ll be fine.

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by Mick

No dude, we’re leaving together.
You’ll be fine.

Oh no, we've become their parents

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mick

There is nothing to realise. Mr K.

No panic here. Looking forward to leaving still.

You've quite a wait mate. December 2020 I hear, with Theresa pleading for even more time.

[nomadking]

Considering it's potentially possible to have a Brexit deal that is almost identical to being in the EU, how can every possible deal be negative. Just isn't plausible.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by nomadking

Considering it's potentially possible to have a Brexit deal that is almost identical to being in the EU, how can every possible deal be negative. Just isn't plausible.

The scenarios the Govt. asked them to look at are all negative. You'd assume they asked for the likely scenarios.

You're right we could end up with a deal that is almost the same as being in the EU. There is an important difference though, we'll have little or no say in Eu issues affecting us.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by nomadking

Considering it's potentially possible to have a Brexit deal that is almost identical to being in the EU, how can every possible deal be negative. Just isn't plausible.

I'm not sure how possible that is. Even if such a thing existed, we would have no control of rules which would penalise us by favouring the EU member states and not us.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I'm not sure how possible that is. Even if such a thing existed, we would have no control of rules which would penalise us by favouring the EU member states and not us.

And that doesn't happen at the moment?

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by nomadking

And that doesn't happen at the moment?

Only someone with a really low opinion of the UK would think that it happens at the moment.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Only someone with a really low opinion of the UK would think that it happens at the moment.

Strange remark that I could apply to 'some' Remainers who think the UK cannot survive without being chained to the corrupt EU.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mick

Strange remark that I could apply to 'some' Remainers who think the UK cannot survive without being chained to the corrupt EU.

Not that strange, just correct. We're a strong and influential country in the EU. We even wrote Article 50!

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Meanwhile, Peston notes:

Or to put it another way, the Whitehall “experts” - so derided by Gove in the run-up to the referendum - are getting their own back on Gove and Johnson by providing supposed empirical proof that the Leavers’ passion to take back total control over making laws that affect business and commerce would be to throw mountains of £50 notes on to a religious fire.
The government economists’ case for remaining “converged” with the EU is so clear and overwhelming, I am informed, that ministers tell me they are utterly bemused by how Johnson and Gove will dismiss it - as they surely will.

https://www.facebook.com/pestonitv/p...89934627997939

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Not that strange, just correct. We're a strong and influential country in the EU. We even wrote Article 50!

No, I stand by my post, it was a strange remark, you accusing someone else 'talking down the UK' when it's all some Remainers ever do and have done since the democratic decision to leave the EU.

I am not sure what Lord Kerr, writing the text of Article 50 has got to do with the UK being in a 'so called' strong EU ?

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mick

No, I stand by my post, it was a strange remark, you accusing someone else 'talking down the UK' when it's all some Remainers ever do and have done since the democratic decision to leave the EU.

I am not sure what Lord Kerr, writing the text of Article 50 has got to do with the UK being in a 'so called' strong EU ?

The wording was " We're a strong and influential country in the EU" not a so called strong EU.

So many Leavers talk the UK down that it's time to put the record straight. Few Remainers talk this great country down. We just mention economic facts such as those released yesterday aka the uncomfortable truth about Brexit.

[Carth]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

economic facts such as those released yesterday

There you go again . . there are no 'facts' simply guesswork and supposition.

Oh, and it seems to me that most of the 'panicking' going on is from the Remainers camp

Nothing wrong with this Country at all, as long as you've got a job and somewhere to live.
Those that haven't will have a different view of many things and, whether rightly or wrongly, will blame much of it on the EU.
I'm sure they'd swap their current lifestyle for one of those with a nice house, car, and earning 300k + a year, and probably change their vote if they did.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

The wording was " We're a strong and influential country in the EU" not a so called strong EU.

So many Leavers talk the UK down that it's time to put the record straight. Few Remainers talk this great country down. We just mention economic facts such as those released yesterday aka the uncomfortable truth about Brexit.

I think you need a lesson on what is a ‘fact’ and was is an ‘assumption’. Facts are past tense, which means an event has happened for it be recorded as a fact. An event that ‘could’ happen in the future, cannot be classed as a fact.