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		|  24-01-2018, 17:45 | #1636 |  
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					Originally Posted by Maggy J  And Brexiteers are very fond of using the samo,samo arguments. |  Rubbish. We’re constantly having to justify the same things brought up, time and time again by Remainers, you demonstrated this with the red bus.
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					Originally Posted by Mick  Rubbish. We’re constantly having to justify the same things brought up, time and time again by Remainers, you demonstrated this with the red bus. |  Which is our right..If we lose we get to complain over and over and over in perpetuity and point out what the winners did wrong and what lies they told so they could win..There is no law that says we can't keep bringing the issue up. Of course there has to be justification for the bus lie.
		 
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			The bus had two statements on it. Only the naive connected them directly.
 Of course that was the intention IMHO but as written they were not connected.
 
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		|  24-01-2018, 21:42 | #1639 |  
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					Originally Posted by heero_yuy  The bus had two statements on it. Only the naive connected them directly.
 Of course that was the intention IMHO but as written they were not connected.
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		|  24-01-2018, 21:50 | #1640 |  
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					Originally Posted by heero_yuy  The bus had two statements on it. Only the naive connected them directly.
 Of course that was the intention IMHO but as written they were not connected.
 |  So Brexit voters were naive ?     
All going pear shaped as the reality of the situation dawns.  Even Farage has started to panic about his 'legacy'. 
 
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		| . BRITAIN is set to remain a European Union member after Brexit in “all but name” and Britons could be faced with a second referendum, warned Brexiteer Nigel Farage. |  
Never mind Nige, Trump will welcome you.
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		|  24-01-2018, 22:00 | #1641 |  
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					Originally Posted by Maggy J  Which is our right..If we lose we get to complain over and over and over in perpetuity and point out what the winners did wrong and what lies they told so they could win..There is no law that says we can't keep bringing the issue up. Of course there has to be justification for the bus lie. |  The Remain campaign also told lies as well in order for them to win too, a point you keep conveniently forgetting to mention or choosing not to.
 
The bus wasn't a lie. It was a suggestion, 'Let's give' is a suggestion
 
'Let's go to the park', is also a suggestion.
 
'We're going to the park' is a statement, you used to be a substitute teacher, surely you know the distinction between a suggestion and a written statement....
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					Originally Posted by Mr K   |  Nigel does love his publicity Mr K as he still needs to massage his big ego remember.  
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					Originally Posted by Mick  The Remain campaign also told lies as well in order for them to win too, a point you keep conveniently forgetting to mention or choosing not to.
 The bus wasn't a lie. It was a suggestion, 'Let's give' is a suggestion
 
 'Let's go to the park', is also a suggestion.
 
 'We're going to the park' is a statement, you used to be a substitute teacher, surely you know the distinction between a suggestion and a written statement....
 |  Both lied IMO and both are still doing the same now..
		 
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		|  24-01-2018, 22:08 | #1643 |  
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					Originally Posted by Mr K   |  Where is it going pear shaped.. what reality hitting home ?
 
Bollocks. Why?
 
Because....
 
Pound back up to level is was at time of referendum...
 
....All the lies you told about there is going to be a market crash and pensions are going to suffer and there will be a recession in 2017. All never happened, so no it has not gone pear shaped.
 
Unemployment at it lowest level in decades...
 
So where exactly is it going pear shaped ? 
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					Originally Posted by denphone  Nigel does love his publicity Mr K as he still needs to massage his big ego remember.  
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Both lied IMO and both are still doing the same now.. |  Den, you keep pointing the opposite out on my posts when there is no need. I said 'also' in the sentence, please stop trying to correct the things I say because I have said them originally.
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					Originally Posted by Mick  Where is it going pear shaped.. what reality hitting home ?
 Bollocks. Why?
 
 Because....
 
 Pound back up to level is was at time of referendum...
 
 ....All the lies you told about their is going to be a market crash and pensions are going to suffer and there will be a recession in 2017. All never happened, so no it has not gone pear shaped.
 
 Unemployment at it lowest level in decades...
 
 So where exactly is it going pear shaped ?
 |  Ask Nigel, he and the Brexiteer ultras have realised the Brexit they are going to get is going to be incredibly 'soft', and they aren't happy (for a change !) 
(and to remind you Brexit hasn't happened yet, the consequences will be felt by all of us in the decades to come).
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		|  24-01-2018, 22:19 | #1645 |  
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					Originally Posted by Mr K  Ask Nigel, he and the Brexiteer ultras have realised the Brexit they are going to get is going to be incredibly 'soft', and they aren't happy (for a change !)(and to remind you Brexit hasn't happened yet, the consequences will be felt by all of us in the decades to come).
 |  No they will not, we managed before we joined the corrupt union in the 70's and we will do so again.
 
No such thing as a soft or hard brexit, terms made up by Remainers.
 
Leave means leave.
 
I have no desire to ask Nigel anything, I don't care what he thinks.
 
We are leaving and that means the EU, Single Market and Customs Union. Theresa May said the same today at PMQ.
 
Get it in to your head, we are leaving the EU, as democratically elected to do so!!!
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		|  24-01-2018, 23:07 | #1646 |  
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					Originally Posted by Mick  The Remain campaign also told lies as well in order for them to win too, a point you keep conveniently forgetting to mention or choosing not to.
 The bus wasn't a lie. It was a suggestion, 'Let's give' is a suggestion
 
 'Let's go to the park', is also a suggestion.
 
 'We're going to the park' is a statement, you used to be a substitute teacher, surely you know the distinction between a suggestion and a written statement....
 |  'Let's fund the NHS' was a WRITTEN statement on a bus..and no one read it as a suggestion but as a promise.
		 
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		|  24-01-2018, 23:18 | #1647 |  
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					Originally Posted by Maggy J  'Let's fund the NHS' was a WRITTEN statement on a bus..and no one read it as a suggestion but as a promise. |  No it was not.
 
'Let's give' is not a statement, it is a suggestion and it was definitely not a promise either.
 
'We promise to give to the NHS' is a promise and a statement. Those words were not used, so you are fundamentally incorrect.
 
Either way, all the people I know who voted for Brexit made their choice way before any red bus campaigining began because they had enough of the corrupt EU for many many years before hand.
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					Originally Posted by Kursk   |  just to say we not left yet we wont know to we have actually left if it a disaster or not
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					Originally Posted by Dave42  just to say we not left yet we wont know to we have actually left if it a disaster or not |  The British people have decided against the disaster of staying in.
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