Brexit discussion

Originally Posted by Mick

4th time. A quote is a quote! It is not hard. Crikey is it a slow day on here or what ?

No one is saying it isn't a quote.

We're saying the conclusions drawn from that quote are incorrect.

The pound is reaching it's highest level since Brexit after a story that Spain and Holland will team up to help ensure a soft-Brexit for Britain: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ft-brexit-deal

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Damien

The pound is reaching it's highest level since Brexit after a story that Spain and Holland will team up to help ensure a soft-Brexit for Britain: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ft-brexit-deal

Let's hope the UK Government is up for a soft Brexit too and can sort out the Gibraltar situation whose residents voted 96% to remain in the EU.

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by Damien

No one is saying it isn't a quote.

We're saying the conclusions drawn from that quote are incorrect.

Yes. Thank God someone understood.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Damien

No one is disputing the quote. Just that a quote means we have trade deals already sorted, it doesn't. The bills need to be created and passed in their respective parliaments.

Everybody knows that - the UK can't negotiate any trade deals while we're still in the UK. What can be done is certain 'exploratory' discussions.

[jonbxx]

In other news, the Goverment has implemented the EU payment service directive 2. This includes the abolition of credit card charges. Theresa Mays Twitter feed somehow didn’t mention This was an EU initiative - https://mobile.twitter.com/theresa_m...08358668038146

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by jonbxx

In other news, the Goverment has implemented the EU payment service directive 2. This includes the abolition of credit card charges. Theresa Mays Twitter feed somehow didn’t mention This was an EU initiative - https://mobile.twitter.com/theresa_m...08358668038146

Well there's a surprise ! Probably just an oversight. TM is a remainer at heart but has to keep the loons happy.

If it happens this Brexit is going to be so soft it might as well not have. It's still going to cost shedloads, which is the tragedy.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Osem

Everybody knows that - the UK can't negotiate any trade deals while we're still in the UK. What can be done is certain 'exploratory' discussions.

If we're in the single market (as Iceland is) we can negotiate and sign deals with other countries. Sky News informed a Brexit Tory politician of this fact recently.

When push came to shove the real red line - a little surprisingly - was the ability to negotiate, sign, and eventually implement different trade deals.
"What about Iceland?" I asked, highlighting the first Western nation to sign a free trade agreement with China.
"That sounds good," said the MP, before I pointed out that Iceland is a member of the European Economic Area and the European Free Trade Agreement - and therefore in the single market. Indeed so is Switzerland, which is in EFTA alone, but not the EEA. Norway is currently negotiating a deal with China too.
Instead in the week that further deliberations are to be had in the key cabinet Brexit subcommittee, the strategy is still more about what we do not want from the Brexit "end-state" than identifying what we actually want, or rather can get, in the negotiation.
On all sides in Parliament we are still in the middle of a rather pointless semantic dance.
On that issue of the single market it revolves around the word "in".

https://news.sky.com/story/sky-views...rexit-11208575

Originally Posted by Mr K

Well there's a surprise ! Probably just an oversight. TM is a remainer at heart but has to keep the loons happy.

If it happens this Brexit is going to be so soft it might as well not have. It's still going to cost shedloads, which is the tragedy.

No it isn’t and you have been told to stop using the term loons!

[jonbxx]

Maybe Mr K is concerned what north american birds think about Brexit.

Just checking though - 'Loon' is bad but 'corrupt imbecile' is OK?

Originally Posted by jonbxx

Maybe Mr K is concerned what north american birds think about Brexit.

Just checking though - 'Loon' is bad but 'corrupt imbecile' is OK?

Corrupt imbecile has not been aimed at any members and if you don’t mind, next time you have a team query, use the Private message facility.

[jonbxx]

I apologise, I didn't know it was a moderators message, I thought those were in bold

[heero_yuy]

Jacob Rees-Mogg has been hailed as a 'true believer' in Brexit following his appointment to a key backbench Tory Europsceptic group.

The influential Tory MP has vowed to support the government in handing back 'control' after he stood unopposed to chair the European Reform Group.

The group has more than 60 Eurosceptic Tory MPs but there was rising concern that it was failing to do enough to influence the Government.

Warning Mrs May his group would fight any attempt to water down Brexit, Mr Rees-Mogg said: "It is especially important to achieve control of our laws, control immigration and achieve new trade agreements with other countries.

"The ERG speaks individually not with the collective view but has considerable support across the Parliamentary Party.

"As Chairman I intend to be helpful, vigorous and supportive towards Government policy of making a success of Brexit.”

Source

A bit more like it. Some backbone.

[heero_yuy]

I see Ken Clarke keeps his audience riveted as he drones on about the wonderful EU:





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European Withdrawal Bill passes in the House of Commons. Yay: 324 to 295 No.

Now on to the Lords where it's expected to get further amendments added. Labour clearly voted against, very obvious that cretinous anti-democratic party could not be trusted to respect the referendum decision on 23rd June 2016.