31-12-2017, 18:29
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Re: Brexit discussion
I'm pretty sure that after people saw through Bliar there was a shift to wishing that they had never voted for him in the first place. Nevertheless, he remained prime minister until what people had voted for (his term in office) came to an end. I don't see why the one and only, binding, this is what will happen if you vote out etc etc....vote should be treated any differently. 
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31-12-2017, 18:42
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Re: Brexit discussion
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Originally Posted by Ramrod
I'm pretty sure that after people saw through Bliar there was a shift to wishing that they had never voted for him in the first place. Nevertheless, he remained prime minister until what people had voted for (his term in office) came to an end. I don't see why the one and only, binding, this is what will happen if you vote out etc etc....vote should be treated any differently. |
That's because you believe in democracy... 
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31-12-2017, 18:59
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Re: Brexit discussion
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That's because you believe in democracy... |
Unlike the undemocratic EU that makes you vote again and again until you get the "right" result.
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31-12-2017, 19:13
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Re: Brexit discussion
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Unlike the undemocratic EU that makes you vote again and again until you get the "right" result.
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What referenda has the EU forced on any country?
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31-12-2017, 19:33
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Re: Brexit discussion
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy
Unlike the undemocratic EU that makes you vote again and again until you get the "right" result.
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Correct. They've got previous when it comes to that...
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31-12-2017, 19:34
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Re: Brexit discussion
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What referenda has the EU forced on any country?
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These have been referenda on new treaties. The Irish didnt vote yes once and I think the Belgians had problems with a regional parliament over the Canadian Trade agreement. i think there has been one other event.
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31-12-2017, 21:13
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Re: Brexit discussion
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These have been referenda on new treaties. The Irish didnt vote yes once and I think the Belgians had problems with a regional parliament over the Canadian Trade agreement. i think there has been one other event.
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The Irish vote was a vote to change the Irish constitution to incorporate the Lisbon treaty.. The vote was a ‘no’ so the wording of the amendment was changed and the referendum run again with a ‘yes’ result. It was an internal thing for Ireland and the 28th amendment went ahead.
The thing with Belgium wasn’t a referendum. Wallonia were concerned about some protections around agriculture and so blocked the Belgium federal governments ratification of the treaty. Assurances were given, Wallonia agreed, the Belgian government ratified the agreement.
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31-12-2017, 22:13
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Re: Brexit discussion
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy
Unlike the undemocratic EU that makes you vote again and again until you get the "right" result.
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What sort of person would suggest that?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politic...endum-36306681
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The question of a second referendum was raised by Mr Farage in an interview with the Mirror in which he said: "In a 52-48 referendum this would be unfinished business by a long way. If the Remain campaign win two-thirds to one-third that ends it."
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01-01-2018, 00:14
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Re: Brexit discussion
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Farage can/could say what he wants. Fact is that Cameron said this: David Cameron's "Leave means Leave" & "No 2nd Ref" speech
That's what we were promised.
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01-01-2018, 00:24
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Re: Brexit discussion
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Remind me, wasn't that the same David Cameron who said he wouldn't resign even if he 'lost' the referendum?
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01-01-2018, 02:23
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Re: Brexit discussion
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Originally Posted by Julian
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So when he said something he meant it 
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01-01-2018, 06:41
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Re: Brexit discussion
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Remind me, wasn't that the same David Cameron who said he wouldn't resign even if he 'lost' the referendum?
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Strange how some self righteous politicians quote this , that and tother at us plebs but cannot quote it to themselves.
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01-01-2018, 11:05
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Re: Brexit discussion
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They told us there'd be no second chances to pile the pressure on those tempted to leave and get their way - it was all part of project fear. Having lost the argument it clearly suits some folks to start whining about people changing their minds, didn't know what they were voting for blah blah blah... Pathetic.
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01-01-2018, 13:02
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Re: Brexit discussion
Once again, I have to remind posters of the 1st post in this thread.
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New thread to discuss Brexit.
Guidelines
The constant baiting, belittling of either side of the vote needs to end. The new thread must be a reasonable and a frank debate, it's impossible to agree on this topic but none of this "he/she is thick" or "you're a snowflake". This is not Facebook or twitter.
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