14-12-2017, 14:26
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Re: Brexit discussion
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
No, it's not that. The fear is that if the EU knows that we have to take the deal that's on the table back to Parliament, who could then tell the Government to go back for further negotiations, this will put the UK on the back foot, and the EU could exploit the position. It could result in the UK getting a worse deal because our negotiating hand is weakened.
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That's rather negative Old Boy. It could actually strengthen the UK's negotiating position. The negotiators could say "I'd love to agree to that so I can get home tonight but I can't because it won't get past Parliament. Give me a better offer."
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Unfortunately the government have to consider what's next after leaving. Leave means Leave isn't a policy proposal.
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Exactly. The worrying thing is that the Government hasn't decided due to cabinet divisions.
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Mrs May is facing pressure from her fellow leaders at the EU Council meeting to spell out what kind of future relationship Britain is looking for, as negotiators prepare to move on to the next phase of talks. But the prime minister has yet to find a consensus in her own cabinet between those who favour close alignment with the EU after Brexit and those who are keen to make a harder break. “We asked the European side to leave it open for now,” said one of Mrs May’s allies. “We didn’t want them setting down at this European Council what exactly the parameters of a deal might be.”
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https://www.ft.com/content/2a7d62d2-...f-de1c2175f5ce
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14-12-2017, 16:33
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#1292
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Re: Brexit discussion
David Davis deserves a knighthood for his skilful handling of the negotiations.
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14-12-2017, 17:42
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Re: Brexit discussion
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
I think some of the extreme Brexiters fear Parliamentary scrutiny will reduce the chances of a hard Brexit. It's not a philosophical question for them.
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No excuses for this though as this goes beyond the pale. 
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-politics-live
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14-12-2017, 20:37
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Re: Brexit discussion
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Originally Posted by denphone
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I think you get people like this everywhere, it's not a Brexiter thing. I hope the Police catch them for their own good for they can't be of sane mind.
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14-12-2017, 20:42
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Re: Brexit discussion
Yup, happens across politics. It's what happens when people have so vilified their opposition that they become evil, a caricature, and they don't seem them as a fellow human they can empathise with. It should be taken seriously too. Jo Cox was murdered by someone who viewed the world so simply and with so hate.
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14-12-2017, 20:57
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Re: Brexit discussion
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David Davis deserves a knighthood for his skilful handling of the negotiations.
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Sarcasm doesn't suit you ! 
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14-12-2017, 21:40
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Re: Brexit discussion
Good news democracy is working as it should... Give David Davis a knighthood what for I wonder... O of course Brexit I remember it well.
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14-12-2017, 23:02
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Re: Brexit discussion
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Nope, I genuinely feel he is running rings around Barny and Jean. The British always win.
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14-12-2017, 23:07
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Re: Brexit discussion
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Nope, I genuinely feel he is running rings around Barny and Jean. The British always win.
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Yes he's definitely confounded them by giving them virtually everything they wanted. Hard as nails negotiator !
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14-12-2017, 23:17
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Re: Brexit discussion
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Yes he's definitely confounded them by giving them virtually everything they wanted. Hard as nails negotiator !
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Nothing is agreed until everything is agreed - from David Davis himself.
So far, they have nothing.
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14-12-2017, 23:30
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Re: Brexit discussion
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So far, they have nothing.
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And neither have we....
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14-12-2017, 23:33
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Re: Brexit discussion
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And neither have we....
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We don't want anything...
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14-12-2017, 23:41
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Re: Brexit discussion
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We don't want anything...
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Not a good negotiating position, you must be from the David Davis school
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15-12-2017, 01:01
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Re: Brexit discussion
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Originally Posted by Mr K
Not a good negotiating position, you must be from the David Davis school |
Or you just don’t read things maybe?!
EU has warned May tonight that if MPs reject the Brexit deal, they will not renegotiate it’s terms. Putting the possibility of a no brexit deal back on the table, so I guess we owe our thanks to these rebel MPs after all.
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Journalist and Author Isabel Oakenshott schools Nicky Morgan on QT tonight (Morgan a staunch Remoaner at heart and one of the undemocratic rebels voting against the government last night).
https://twitter.com/LeaveEUOfficial/...45872608534539
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And has this Northerner been reading my CF posts LOL?
The bit at end when he mentions the ballot paper...
https://twitter.com/LeaveEUOfficial/...51380639911936
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15-12-2017, 02:25
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Re: Brexit discussion
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Originally Posted by Mick
EU has warned May tonight that if MPs reject the Brexit deal, they will not renegotiate it’s terms. Putting the possibility of a no brexit deal back on the table, so I guess we owe our thanks to these rebel MPs after all.
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Hahaaaaar! Priceless. The clever people are as dull as ditch water  .
Barney and Jean's foppish flouncing is getting on my wick.
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