Brexit discussion - Page 74

1andrew1 · 06-12-2017, 23:10

Imagine if Labour was in power. Diane Abbott says that she doesn't after all have any impact reports as she doesn't trust experts having earlier stated they had been done.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...-a3711871.html

On a humorous note, here's the front page of the National newspaper. Genius!
https://twitter.com/ScotNational/sta...18024679718912

denphone · 07-12-2017, 06:07

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Imagine if Labour was in power. Diane Abbott says that she doesn't after all have any impact reports as she doesn't trust experts having earlier stated they had been done.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...-a3711871.html

On a humorous note, here's the front page of the National newspaper. Genius!
https://twitter.com/ScotNational/sta...18024679718912

Don't you just love some of our incompetent , obfuscating politicians in this country Andrew when so many have placed their faith in them.

**Damien** · 07-12-2017, 07:38

The Sun is reporting David Davies is plotting to be PM by Christmas: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/508332...rime-minister/

Personally I think he should be disqualified just based on both his inability for the department he leads to undertake impact assessments and then his lying that they had.

Osem · 07-12-2017, 10:51

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Originally Posted by Damien

The Sun is reporting David Davies is plotting to be PM by Christmas: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/508332...rime-minister/

Personally I think he should be disqualified just based on both his inability for the department he leads to undertake impact assessments and then his lying that they had.

... and how many times have we all been told not to believe what that scandalous rag publishes...

**Damien** · 07-12-2017, 10:57

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... and how many times have we all been told not to believe what that scandalous rag publishes...

Yeah not sure I believe them. There might be a correction in the corner of page 34 coming soon....

Carth · 07-12-2017, 11:02

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Personally I think he should be disqualified just based on both his inability for the department he leads to undertake impact assessments and then his lying that they had.

The problem here is that many incompetent people don't actually know they're useless because nobody dare tell them so, it's just not done in this PC world.

And pathological liars reach the stage where they are 100% certain that they aren't even telling lies.

If anyone ever confronted him as a waste of space lying shyster they'd probably end up in court with a career in tatters

**Damien** · 07-12-2017, 19:10

Looks like Donald Tusk is having a press conference tomorrow to move onto the next stage of talks. Maybe something has been agreed with Ireland.

Hom3r · 07-12-2017, 19:36

I fed of of the idiots saying it can be stopped or even trying to stop it.

The worst are those traitors have made a Union Flag with the EU stars on it

OLD BOY · 07-12-2017, 19:41

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Originally Posted by Damien

The Sun is reporting David Davies is plotting to be PM by Christmas: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/508332...rime-minister/

Personally I think he should be disqualified just based on both his inability for the department he leads to undertake impact assessments and then his lying that they had.

Ah, yes, those impact assessments beloved of the 'elf 'n' safety brigade.

The problem when you start working on impact assessments is that you soon find that if you tried to address everything that could possibly go wrong, you would still be scratching your head and writing stuff down a decade on.

Better to concentrate on the positives - what you are actually trying to achieve - while addressing the negatives as you go.

That's a much more sensible approach that will get you where you want to be rather quicker.

**Damien** · 07-12-2017, 19:48

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The worst are those traitors have made a Union Flag with the EU stars on it

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Ah, yes, those impact assessments beloved of the 'elf 'n' safety brigade.

The problem when you start working on impact assessments is that you soon find that if you tried to address everything that could possibly go wrong, you would still be scratching your head and writing stuff down a decade on.

Better to concentrate on the positives - what you are actually trying to achieve - while addressing the negatives as you go.

That's a much more sensible approach that will get you where you want to be rather quicker.

I think a sensible approach would be to be prepared for the impact of what you're doing.

OLD BOY · 07-12-2017, 20:13

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I think a sensible approach would be to be prepared for the impact of what you're doing.

Yes, but what I am saying is that preparing an impact assessment is not the right way to do it.

I am sure you have taken many big decisions in your life without preparing a risk assessment first - like when you got married...!

denphone · 07-12-2017, 20:19

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Yes, but what I am saying is that preparing an impact assessment is not the right way to do it.

I am sure you have taken many big decisions in your life without preparing a risk assessment first - like when you got married...!

A big difference between marriage and Brexit OB and a bit of a insult to all those married couples out there as to them getting married was one of the biggest decisions in their life one suspects.

OLD BOY · 07-12-2017, 20:24

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A big difference between marriage and Brexit OB and a bit of a insult to all those married couples out there as to them getting married was one of the biggest decisions in their life one suspects.

It was one big decision in most married people's lives, I would imagine Den! Divorce is even bigger, and I shouldn't think many people do risk assessments for that either!

Neat little linkage there with Brexit, my thanks to you for that!

**Damien** · 07-12-2017, 20:32

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It was one big decision in most married people's lives, I would imagine Den! Divorce is even bigger, and I shouldn't think many people do risk assessments for that either!

Neat little linkage there with Brexit, my thanks to you for that!

It's not a risk assessment though it's an assessment of what could happen to each sector of industry. It seems wise to be prepared for it. Instead, as has been the plan for all of it, it's just being made up as we go along. I also wonder why the government have been suggesting there were all these technical assessments when there were not.

OLD BOY · 07-12-2017, 20:50

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Originally Posted by Damien

It's not a risk assessment though it's an assessment of what could happen to each sector of industry. It seems wise to be prepared for it. Instead, as has been the plan for all of it, it's just being made up as we go along. I also wonder why the government have been suggesting there were all these technical assessments when there were not.

I wonder if Tony Blair did a risk assessment becore going to war with Iraq? Or Gordon Brown when he gave more independence to the banks

Of course not! The dangers would have been apparent to everyone in any case.