Brexit discussion

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Carth

Here's the two biggest hits to my pocket recently:

1) car insurance £6 a month up
2) virgin media £3.50 a month up

neither are caused by Brexit, maybe we have tunnel vision

Inflation is around 3%, as long as your wages have gone up by that much you're holding even. If not, and most people's wages haven't, then you're losing ground.

Originally Posted by Carth

Here's the two biggest hits to my pocket recently:

1) car insurance £6 a month up
2) virgin media £3.50 a month up

neither are caused by Brexit, maybe we have tunnel vision

Depends in the causes of the insurance and virgin media are but in part inflation due to the drop in the pound will be factored into price rises like that.

[jonbxx]

Originally Posted by Mick

It wasn’t fake, the claim was made by remainers, even by one of your buddies, as I quoted. Open your eyes!

Would it help if it was written on the side of a bus?

[denphone]

Originally Posted by jonbxx

Would it help if it was written on the side of a bus?

Well the NHS head honcho believes those promises written on the side of a bus should be met in full in his speech later on today.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-41908302

[Carth]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Inflation is around 3%, as long as your wages have gone up by that much you're holding even. If not, and most people's wages haven't, then you're losing ground.

Originally Posted by Damien

Depends in the causes of the insurance and virgin media are but in part inflation due to the drop in the pound will be factored into price rises like that.

Yes I follow these explanations, but insurance companies increase your renewal every year, and companies akin to VM raise their prices (sometimes more than) once a year. These increases would happen with or without Brexit, yet Brexit is always brought into any discussion about higher costs of living. If the remain vote had won we would still be seeing these increases in the cost of living, as has happened since . . . well I'm an old man now

Brexit will cause problems, but let's not use it as a bashing stick to explain why people are (seemingly)* worse off than last year.

* eg. if you buy a new 'top of the range' iphone every year, that's probably £700+ that you're out of pocket . . .

Originally Posted by jonbxx

Would it help if it was written on the side of a bus?

Oh please, is that the best you can do ?

You remainers put it where you like, it was still BS, the 350M, figure was misleading but not totally untrue, we do pay a hefty membership fee.

[GrimUpNorth]

Originally Posted by Mick

Oh please, is that the best you can do ?

You remainers put it where you like, it was still BS, the 350M, figure was misleading but not totally untrue, we do pay a hefty membership fee.

It would be nice if HMG gave us some sort of indication what they plan to o with that hefty membership fee once we're not paying our subs any more (whatever the true figure). Maybe they could put that info on the side of a bus.

Cheers

Dave

We need to leave first.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth

It would be nice if HMG gave us some sort of indication what they plan to o with that hefty membership fee once we're not paying our subs any more (whatever the true figure). Maybe they could put that info on the side of a bus.

Cheers

Dave

They won't do that as Grim as obfuscating the true facts of everything involving Brexit to put it bluntly is one of their favourite tricks in hoodwinking the public.

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Originally Posted by Mick

We need to leave first.

March 2019 or so she has told us.

Originally Posted by denphone

They won't do that as Grim as obfuscating the true facts of everything involving Brexit to put it bluntly is one of their favourite tricks in hoodwinking the public.

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March 2019 or so she has told us.

We’re being one sided again, the hoodwinking occurred on the remain side as well.

It certainly feels like Groundhog Day today again.....

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Mick

We’re being one sided again, the hoodwinking occurred on the remain side as well.

It certainly feels like Groundhog Day today again.....

l did not deny that but we are in the processes of Brexit now and my sentiment of HMG hoodwinking the public and not telling us the full and true facts still applies.

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Originally Posted by Mick

We’re being one sided again

l try not be one sided like some..

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by denphone

March 2019 or so she has told us.

But that's only if the remainers accept that there will be NO transitional period. Otherwise we'll have to keep sending £billions to Brussels for no reward. i.e. kicking the can down the road.

Originally Posted by denphone

l did not deny that but we are in the processes of Brexit now and my sentiment of HMG hoodwinking the public and not telling us the full and true facts still applies.

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l try not be one sided like some..

But at the same time, we’re still being told, people did not know what we were voting for, it was straight forward question to me with a box at the the side of ‘leave the EU.’

And because some thought the wrong result occurred, they’re calling for another referendum. Pathetic.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Mick

But at the same time, we’re still being told, people did not know what we were voting for, it was straight forward question to me with a box at the the side of ‘leave the EU.’

And because some thought the wrong result occurred, they’re calling for another referendum. Pathetic.

l knew what l was voting for and thus accepted the referendum result without hesitation but hence since then it has been a complete trail of lies and deception from HMG as they are certainly not telling the public the full facts and truth of the full consequences of what Brexit entails unless you think they are Mick?.

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Originally Posted by Mick

And because some thought the wrong result occurred, they’re calling for another referendum. Pathetic.

Yes l certainly agree that calling for another referendum is the domain of a sore loser.

Originally Posted by Carth

Yes I follow these explanations, but insurance companies increase your renewal every year, and companies akin to VM raise their prices (sometimes more than) once a year. These increases would happen with or without Brexit, yet Brexit is always brought into any discussion about higher costs of living. If the remain vote had won we would still be seeing these increases in the cost of living, as has happened since . . . well I'm an old man now

Brexit will cause problems, but let's not use it as a bashing stick to explain why people are (seemingly)* worse off than last year.

* eg. if you buy a new 'top of the range' iphone every year, that's probably £700+ that you're out of pocket . . .

I don't think it's the only reason insurance companies raise their prices but inflation will push prices up across the board just because that's the nature of inflation.

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy

But that's only if the remainers accept that there will be NO transitional period. Otherwise we'll have to keep sending £billions to Brussels for no reward. i.e. kicking the can down the road.

Many Leavers in the Government would accept continuing payments for single market access so long as they had control of immigration and left the jurisdiction of the ECJ. There problem has never really been about the money.