Brexit discussion

[1andrew1]

This doesn't sound good.

Theresa May’s quest for a “Canada plus” deal in Brexit talks has run into serious legal obstacles and may ultimately prove impossible, risking bitter disappointment and a political crisis next year as reality hits home.
Trade lawyers and European officials warn that even if the EU wants to grant the UK a bespoke deal that preserves unfettered access for goods and services, it cannot do so without granting parallel concessions to Canada, South Korea, and other countries that have free trade agreements. This would open up a Pandora’s Box.
“It is a minefield. Financial institutions are fully of aware of the problem but we have not yet heard anything from the Government,” Chris Bryant, an EU expert at lawyers Brewin Leighton Paisner.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...gal-minefield/

[djfunkdup]

https://howmanydaystill.com/its/brexit-6

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[Mr K]

EU nurses 'turning their backs on UK'
The decline in EU nurses and midwives wanting to work in the UK since the referendum is continuing, figures show.
The trend was first noticed earlier this year, and now a new batch of figures released by the Nursing and Midwifery Council have reinforced the idea that Brexit is having an impact.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-41838426

Those pesky EU health workers have got the message that we don't want them any longer , and we're happy for the health service to collapse. Even if the £350million lie was true, it would be no use with no staff.

Still lets get rid of bursaries so those nurses we do have have to take out loans, in order to train to look after us. What, no takers ?

NHS & Britain RIP.

[pip08456]

Link doesn't work Mr K.

Originally Posted by pip08456

Link doesn't work Mr K.

It should be obvious, Mr K, whose constant theme is of recurring negativity, ad hoc in nature, backed up by biased BBC, to blame Brexit on NHS problems that in actual fact, have long existed before the leave result.

I banged my elbow while passing down a corridor at work yesterday, caught it on a hand rail. I had two choices to blame either Brexit or President Trump.

It would seem to be there might be strong reason to suspect a drop in EU nurses coming to the UK, and other EU nurses leaving the UK, with Brexit.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Damien

It would seem to be there might be strong reason to suspect a drop in EU nurses coming to the UK, and other EU nurses leaving the UK, with Brexit.

Other things you may wish to consider:

English language tests introduced at around the same time as Brexit.

European nursing shortage.

Worldwide nursing shortage.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by pip08456

Other things you may wish to consider:

English language tests introduced at around the same time as Brexit.

European nursing shortage.

Worldwide nursing shortage.

... and the value of Sterling right now makes the UK less attractive foreign workers of all sorts. It worked (and will do again) massively the other way around when Sterling was much higher and it's really not rocket science is it. That's what migrant labour does and the EU encourages the movement of workers to where demand and accordingly conditions, takes them.

This is not a big surprise but it will be presented by some as yet another reason to overturn the Brexit referendum decision. They've been doing it constantly since they failed to get their way and they won't stop because they're only interested in the sort of democracy which offers what they want.

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Originally Posted by Mick

It should be obvious, Mr K, whose constant theme is of recurring negativity, ad hoc in nature, backed up by biased BBC, to blame Brexit on NHS problems that in actual fact, have long existed before the leave result.

I banged my elbow while passing down a corridor at work yesterday, caught it on a hand rail. I had two choices to blame either Brexit or President Trump.

It used to be Thatcher, now it's Trump. I guess we should be thankful that at least something has changed...

[RichardCoulter]

An inquiry has started to see if Russia was stirring things up during the Brexit campaign (and the American presidential election):

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/w...inks-lnf7h86t0

[pip08456]

Of course it's all down to the Russians!

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Agreed.
Yet, still the Government feels that we shouldn't be told the facts and is witholding the impact studies on industries from us. I'd rather have these facts than exaggereated studies from Brextremists and lobbysits alike.

I remember listening to the radio, and they had a financial analyst on. They asked him why the predictions are all so negative, and whether he felt they were accurate. He said the problem was that the government is giving almost no tangible information or stats. This is likely why the predictions are so negative. The government could be giving no info because the results of their own studies are bad, or they could be giving no info because there is none to give. As analysts, if they have no info to go on, they tend to assume the worst. At least that way, they are covered if the worst does happen.

[RichardCoulter]

Secret documents to reveal economic impact of Brexit:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/s...nomy-p3663529c

Originally Posted by pip08456

Of course it's all down to the Russians!

Dang it, I could have blamed them yesterday for banging my elbow, in a corridor at work.

Silly me, but saying that, I may have come unstuck increasing the complexity of blaming something, by adding in a third option.

[daveeb]

Originally Posted by Mick

It should be obvious, Mr K, whose constant theme is of recurring negativity, ad hoc in nature, backed up by biased BBC, to blame Brexit on NHS problems that in actual fact, have long existed before the leave result.

I banged my elbow while passing down a corridor at work yesterday, caught it on a hand rail. I had two choices to blame either Brexit or President Trump.

I'd say Mr K has a constant theme of making astute observations, far more persuasive than the predictable personal rebuttals he receives.

And yes the NHS has long had problems but with dwindling recruitment from Europe it's going to get even worse.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by daveeb

I'd say Mr K has a constant theme of making astute observations, far more persuasive than the predictable personal rebuttals he receives.

And yes the NHS has long had problems but with dwindling recruitment from Europe it's going to get even worse.

Two doctors looking after 400 patients ain't right in anybody's mind.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-41304164