U.S President: Donald Trump

Originally Posted by Gary L

Bring back Obama FFS!
Getting fed up with this joke of a president and his Twitter. The man's a joke. What has he done since he's been in? apart from FA!

Yet, you support a joke that is the leader of the Labour Party. Enough said.

No, let’s not not bring Obama back, not that it can happen, two term Presidents cannot serve a third.

Originally Posted by Mick

No that isn’t the main story. There is still no link. Think you’re getting ahead of yourself. None of the charges today, give any indication of Trump and Collusion with Russia.

Also, Papadopoulos, was not a Trump Advisor, he volunteered his services to Trumps campaign, after that he is/was a independent foreign policy advisor on Energy.

Trump posted this on March 31st 16 on Twitter and Instagram - it says National Security Meeting - seems a very high level meeting for someone not important to attend?

Originally Posted by Hugh

According to that court document, the Russians told him they had ‘thousands of Clinton emails’ in April 2016; WikiLeaks released the DNC emails in July 2016.

I wonder where WikiLeaks got the emails from?

Originally Posted by Mick

Assange says it got them via a FOIA.


I repeat with no heat of the moment involved, there still is no link.

It seems to be the hacked Podesta e-mails: https://twitter.com/matthewamiller/s...22808446345216

No way that was obtained by a FOI request.

This is all around the time of that tweet from Trump with Papadopoulos in the meeting. Week or so later he is allegedly told by a Russian source about these hacked e-mails. Month or so after that Wikileaks has them.

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Also far more to come: https://twitter.com/BySteveReilly/st...63641870856192

U.S. District Court for D.C. has four sealed cases in its docket with case numbers between Papadopoulos' (182) and Manafort's (201).

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It also seems, according to the court documents, other people on the campaign were told of this Russian meeting: https://twitter.com/BySteveReilly/st...25417299398657

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mick

I repeat with no heat of the moment involved, there still is no link.

Also, I think you need to go to Specsavers, Clue is in the Words ‘After’ and ‘independent’.

Hugh's responded to you about the status of Papadopolous so I won't duplicate effort here. As he points out, not even the White House is denying this point now.

Regarding the Russian link, I fail to see why you're in denial about this too. Are all the reports fake news? Did Papadopoulos not cover up his meetings with Russian-connected individuals who promised adverse information on Clinton? Or is he too junior to count?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41808227

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Mick

Yet, you support a joke that is the leader of the Labour Party. Enough said.

No, let’s not not bring Obama back, not that it can happen, two term Presidents cannot serve a third.

The most powerful man in the world.

I think this one's known as the most childish.

Just take his Twitter off him. and tell him to do some work.

Originally Posted by Gary L

The most powerful man in the world.

I think this one's known as the most childish.

Just take his Twitter off him. and tell him to do some work.

If I had that ability, I’d be the owner of Twitter and very rich. Let’s get back to reality Gary, most of the time, something you struggle with.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Hugh's responded to you about the status of Papadopolous so I won't duplicate effort here. As he points out, not even the White House is denying this point now.

Regarding the Russian link, I fail to see why you're in denial about this too. Are all the reports fake news? Did Papadopoulos not cover up his meetings with Russian-connected individuals who promised adverse information on Clinton? Or is he too junior to count?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41808227

Not in denial, and I stand by my posts as I always do. I repeat there still is no link!

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mick

Not in denial, and I stand by my posts as I always do. I repeat there still is no link!

Today's revelations have sufficed for most but it sounds like more is on its way. So it won't be long until you are presented with something that will reluctantly tick your box.
Today was a good one for American justice. The worker at Walmart can rest assured that despite their wealth and connections, misbehaviour is punished at all levels and the establishment took a blow for the people tonight.

Wow, what on Earth are you talking about?

Was that your closing speech for the night?

There is nothing revelating on crimes of money laundering and tax fraud. Mueller going after Manafort was long anticipated, and all it boils down to was a raft of crimes centred on just money.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Mick

No, let’s not not bring Obama back, not that it can happen, two term Presidents cannot serve a third.

Tell that to FDR, he might still be president now if a little thing like his death hadn't happened. Rules have been amended before and they can always be changed again.

https://twitter.com/carolecadwalla/s...44729548935169

He was in London the other week. People pointing out that wouldn’t be allowed under his bail conditions unless he had special permission. Who did he met? He has clearly been working for the investigation...

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mick

Wow, what on Earth are you talking about?

Was that your closing speech for the night?

There is nothing revelating on crimes of money laundering and tax fraud. Mueller going after Manafort was long anticipated, and all it boils down to was a raft of crimes centred on just money.

The important point that came out yesterday was not about the two Ms but about Trump's adviser, Papadopoulos and his links to the Russians. As a reminder, you tried to argue that he was not an important adviser. Hugh then posted a picture of Papadopoulos at a National Security Meeting which destroyed your argument.
Moving forward a day and it wasn't The Sun wot won it for Trump but Facebook. Around half of the US population of voting age may have seen 80,000 posts that were published by operatives based in Russia.
http://news.sky.com/story/russia-bac...icans-11106534

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

The important point that came out yesterday was not about the two Ms but about Trump's adviser, Papadopoulos and his links to the Russians. As a reminder, you tried to argue that he was not an important adviser. Hugh then posted a picture of Papadopoulos at a National Security Meeting which destroyed your argument.
Moving forward a day and it wasn't The Sun wot won it for Trump but Facebook. Around half of the US population of voting age may have seen 80,000 posts that were published by operatives based in Russia.
http://news.sky.com/story/russia-bac...icans-11106534

It was said a few weeks ago the Facebook ads were also pro Hillary.

No, what won it for Trump was Hillary being a ghastly opponent and I refute my argument being destroyed. For the 5th, 6th time there still is NO link.

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Tell that to FDR, he might still be president now if a little thing like his death hadn't happened. Rules have been amended before and they can always be changed again.

And you really think that will happen under a Republican controlled Congress, Supreme Court and Executive Branch ?

They won’t change that again, just to bring Obama back.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Mick

It was said a few weeks ago the Facebook ads were also pro Hillary.

No, what won it for Trump was Hillary being a ghastly opponent and I refute my argument being destroyed. For the 5th, 6th time there still is NO link.

Brown stuff might just be about to hit a fan.


http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/10...mueller-probe/

And you really think that will happen under a Republican controlled Congress, Supreme Court and Executive Branch ?

They won’t change that again, just to bring Obama back.

I never said that, I don't think Obama was popular enough for public opinion to force a change and they would have to force it, there's no way the powers behind the thrones of either party want to be lumbered with a leader the people love, who is relatively competent and not particularly corruptable for anymore than two terms and besides Obama didn't do enough to warrant it changing imho

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Brown stuff might just be about to hit a fan.


http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/10...mueller-probe/

It's what I've said a few posts earlier.

Even if he wasn't wearing a wire he has been secretly working for the Mueller investigation for months. It's not clear who, if anyone, outside the investigation knew he had even been arrested let alone cooperating. It turns out he was in London last week and couldn't have done so without special permission from the FBI and a waver so that's also led to speculation he was working on behalf of the investigation then as well.

There are also further sealed cases relating to the investigation. Some of them are probably further charges on people related to the foreign money stuff Manafort got done for. However who else has already been taken in? Do they have further people working for the investigation? Why were these charges not released yesterday? Who has talked to Papadopoulos since he has been working for Mueller ?

You have to wonder if Flynn has done a "Papadopoulos", and is one of the sealed cases? - there was as much evidence against him as there was against Manafort.