20-10-2017, 11:39
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Re: Would you prefer to have Sky Atlantic instead of BT Sport in Full House/XL?
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter
Well, this is a hypothetical poll which assumes that the rumour that BT Sport is to be withdrawn from the Full House pack is true.
My interest is whether using some/all of the money saved to get Sky Atlantic (the last major channel missing VM) would appease people.
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Don't VM employees get TV for free anymore (only paying tax on the net worth of the free packages)?
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100% agree.
Maybe their USP will be to offer more 4K and deny it to VM after making SA available.
Having said that, I was recently reading that 4K hasn't been as successful as was originally assumed. Apparently, there are still many people who, despite having HD sets, still go from the beginning of the EPG's and don't bother with the HD variants!
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I'm not interested in any of the options. The moment we get offered Sky Atlantic is the moment Sky invent a new super duper channel only available to their direct customers and the programmes on offer become the usual repeats of repeats. They did it with Sky 1 way back.
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20-10-2017, 13:16
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Re: Would you prefer to have Sky Atlantic instead of BT Sport in Full House/XL?
I agree, that is exactly what will happen, they will have a plan, probably involving UHD.
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20-10-2017, 14:19
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Re: Would you prefer to have Sky Atlantic instead of BT Sport in Full House/XL?
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Originally Posted by nicknewark
I agree, that is exactly what will happen, they will have a plan, probably involving UHD.
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Fancy that a company with a plan 
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20-10-2017, 15:31
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Re: Would you prefer to have Sky Atlantic instead of BT Sport in Full House/XL?
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Originally Posted by Joedm45
BT Sport for me, I get Atlantic for as little as £3-4 a month through NowTV. If BT went standalone I'm sure it'll be an absolute fortune in comparison.
The poll is effectively asking are you a sports fan or TV show fan. You'll always get a mixed response
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No, it's asking if BT Sport were to be removed from Full House, would you be appeased by SA being added?
Obviously, whether you like one, both or neither genres will impact on a persons choice!
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Originally Posted by Maggy J
I'm not interested in any of the options. The moment we get offered Sky Atlantic is the moment Sky invent a new super duper channel only available to their direct customers and the programmes on offer become the usual repeats of repeats. They did it with Sky 1 way back.
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I'm not asking if people would prefer BT Sport be removed and SA added, I'm asking people to assume that the rumour is true and BT Sport was hypotheticaly taken out of Full House. Would the addition of SA appease you as a customer for the loss of BT Sport?
Maybe the question could have been phrased better.
I tend to agree that should Sky allow VM to have SA, they will deny VM something new to obtain the edge over their competitors. Their strategy seems to be "we'll wholesale most of our products to make extra money out of them, but not quiet everything. For that you'll have to come to us".
Cable TV was around long before Sky and DTH satellite and Sky used to put in their annual reports that they viewed wholesaling their channels to cable companies as merely another income stream. After allowing Sky to overtake them and starting to get their act together, Sky obviously changed their tune some years ago and see cable/VM as much more of a threat.
Last edited by RichardCoulter; 20-10-2017 at 15:41.
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20-10-2017, 17:20
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Re: Would you prefer to have Sky Atlantic instead of BT Sport in Full House/XL?
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter
Sky obviously changed their tune some years ago and see cable/VM as much more of a threat.
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Sky said some time back its biggest competitors are the online streaming services , I'd imagine they even deem BT as a bigger competitor owing to it's entry into Sport.
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20-10-2017, 18:20
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Re: Would you prefer to have Sky Atlantic instead of BT Sport in Full House/XL?
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Originally Posted by muppetman11
Sky said some time back its biggest competitors are the online streaming services , I'd imagine they even deem BT as a bigger competitor owing to it's entry into Sport.
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Ahhh right, maybe this explains their apparant willinness to work more closely with VM eg starting to promote the Sky premium channels. They never used to as they didn't make anything from them, they were only there to aid channel parity with Sky.
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20-10-2017, 19:15
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Re: Would you prefer to have Sky Atlantic instead of BT Sport in Full House/XL?
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter
Ahhh right, maybe this explains their apparant willinness to work more closely with VM eg starting to promote the Sky premium channels. They never used to as they didn't make anything from them, they were only there to aid channel parity with Sky.
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I believe I read a while ago that in return for an agreement on a lower price charged to Virgin, who were not making money from the Premium channels, there was a commitment to have Virgin-specific commercials advertising the Sky premium channels.
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20-10-2017, 19:23
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Re: Would you prefer to have Sky Atlantic instead of BT Sport in Full House/XL?
Sounds sensible, competition is one thing, but working together can often bring benefits to two separate companies.
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20-10-2017, 19:34
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Re: Would you prefer to have Sky Atlantic instead of BT Sport in Full House/XL?
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
I believe I read a while ago that in return for an agreement on a lower price charged to Virgin, who were not making money from the Premium channels, there was a commitment to have Virgin-specific commercials advertising the Sky premium channels.
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They also have a deal in place with Sky to use Sky's targeted ad service Sky Adsmart.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...ertising-deal/
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20-10-2017, 22:30
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Re: Would you prefer to have Sky Atlantic instead of BT Sport in Full House/XL?
Intetesting link MM.
Are VM customers being served targeted advertising right now?
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21-10-2017, 09:30
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Re: Would you prefer to have Sky Atlantic instead of BT Sport in Full House/XL?
I can get Sky Atlantic for £19.99 for six months with a Now TV box.
How much will BT Sport be standalone? More than that for one month?
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21-10-2017, 10:07
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Re: Would you prefer to have Sky Atlantic instead of BT Sport in Full House/XL?
Keep BT Sport
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21-10-2017, 11:29
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Re: Would you prefer to have Sky Atlantic instead of BT Sport in Full House/XL?
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter
Are VM customers being served targeted advertising right now?
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No, it's still under development at the moment.
A question for Sky users: can you tell when you are getting targetted adverts? ("Hey, you with the south-facing garden...")
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21-10-2017, 12:17
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Re: Would you prefer to have Sky Atlantic instead of BT Sport in Full House/XL?
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Originally Posted by spiderplant
A question for Sky users: can you tell when you are getting targetted adverts? ("Hey, you with the south-facing garden...")
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No thats the idea of it , the viewer essentially just sees an ad like they would normally.
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21-10-2017, 12:36
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Re: Would you prefer to have Sky Atlantic instead of BT Sport in Full House/XL?
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Originally Posted by muppetman11
No thats the idea of it , the viewer essentially just sees an ad like they would normally.
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Yes, but can you tell from the content of the advert?
On websites it's often really obvious. For example, this forum is currently showing me an advert for Holiday Inn Express. More than a coincidence that I stayed in one of their hotels last week?
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