Tivo V6 Would you prefer to have Sky Atlantic instead of BT Sport in Full House/XL? - Page 3

RichardCoulter · 18-10-2017, 20:30

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Originally Posted by Paul M

I've yet to meet anyone who cares about SA.

Aside from Game of Thrones, there isnt a single programme on it I watch.

It could cease broadcasting tomorrow and no tears would be shed here.

What did you think of Westworld? When it's repeated I might sub to Now TV for it as it's the only thing that caught my eye.

Media Boy UK · 18-10-2017, 20:38

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

If VM were to use the money saved to meet Sky halfway or even pay the asking price and bring Sky Atlantic to the top package instead, would you prefer this?

This is Sky you are talking about.

RichardCoulter · 18-10-2017, 20:58

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Originally Posted by Raider999

A no brainer, very little on sky Atlantic that I watch, whereas there are loads of rugby and football on BT sports.

Also don't forget BT Sports has the uk rights for the coming Ashes series.

Your third option - not bothered should have been both. (If you're not bothered you won't bother to vote will you?)

Well, some people don't care about having either channel. Both would be nice as it would appease everybody, even those that don't care either way, but I suspect that this would push up bills even more at a time when people are getting fed up of the constant price increases. According to the news, inflation is rising, whilst wages are stagnating too, which will put pressure onto disposable income.

If VM take off BT Sport, offer nothing extra to replace it and don't decrease the price (very unlikely as it was marketed as 'free' and prices are already set to increase) I imagine that it would result in an increase in churn.

What VM could have done is say that BT Sport is being withdrawn from Full House, but that the TV part of the bill would be frozen this year.

How would people react to throwing in Premier Sports as a replacement? Maybe this is the reason why Freesports has not (yet?) been added as they're discussing this possibility with them??

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Originally Posted by Media Boy

This is Sky you are talking about.

Aye, this is true MB.

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Originally Posted by Taf

I detest sport, so was livid when VM decided we ALL wanted it and put up ALL our monthly bills.

It should have been an opt-in extra.

But Sky Atlantic? Nothing on there I'd like to watch. I'd rather have a lower bill.

A think that a lot of people feel the same way, but they are only able to offer it in Full House as non sports fans are indirectly subsidising sports fans.

It would be like putting Baby TV into Full House and forcing those without children having to pay a little extra every month!

Having said that, if throwing in BT Sport with the top package attracts/retains customers or encourages them to upgrade (which this, albeit not scientific, poll suggests it does), maybe the net result is extra sports channels at no extra cost to consumers when this extra revenue is taken into account (even if they never watch BT Sport)??

tweetiepooh · 19-10-2017, 12:49

BT Sport is where the AFL (Aussie rules) is. I wouldn't pay extra for it. A season pass is £125. To me that's a lot just for one sport. I don't care for boxing (legalised assault).

I think there is content on BT Sport that isn't covered anywhere else without a fee and having some included sport channels is a good thing.

Content is a sensitive matter but like the license fee spreading the cost around is less per person than it would be to charge varying amounts. There will be some losers who are very focussed in their viewing but if you do watch a wider range of content but are not a die hard fan of any then a more general approach works better.

Pster72 · 19-10-2017, 12:56

It won’t happen unless they’ve got something big up there sleeve and Sky Atlantic by itself won’t be good enough

nicknewark · 19-10-2017, 13:35

I did like True Detective, although the second series was rubbish, and The leftovers was great.

There is one thing about SA, it always draws a reaction. It may one day arrive on Virgin Media, but expect Sky to pull another rabbit out of the hat, with a new exclusive channel.

**Maggy** · 19-10-2017, 13:58

How about an option of No?

Raider999 · 19-10-2017, 15:46

Whatever happens with BT Sport I do not expect to have to pay any more to get what I currently have.

So split BT Sport out and charge £20pm for it and I expect my package to go down by £20 to reflect the real value of BT Sport not the fictional "free" crap.

RichardCoulter · 19-10-2017, 16:36

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Originally Posted by Maggy J

How about an option of No?

Well, this is a hypothetical poll which assumes that the rumour that BT Sport is to be withdrawn from the Full House pack is true.

My interest is whether using some/all of the money saved to get Sky Atlantic (the last major channel missing VM) would appease people.

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Originally Posted by tweetiepooh

BT Sport is where the AFL (Aussie rules) is. I wouldn't pay extra for it. A season pass is £125. To me that's a lot just for one sport. I don't care for boxing (legalised assault).

I think there is content on BT Sport that isn't covered anywhere else without a fee and having some included sport channels is a good thing.

Content is a sensitive matter but like the license fee spreading the cost around is less per person than it would be to charge varying amounts. There will be some losers who are very focussed in their viewing but if you do watch a wider range of content but are not a die hard fan of any then a more general approach works better.

Don't VM employees get TV for free anymore (only paying tax on the net worth of the free packages)?

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Originally Posted by nicknewark

I did like True Detective, although the second series was rubbish, and The leftovers was great.

There is one thing about SA, it always draws a reaction. It may one day arrive on Virgin Media, but expect Sky to pull another rabbit out of the hat, with a new exclusive channel.

100% agree.

Maybe their USP will be to offer more 4K and deny it to VM after making SA available.

Having said that, I was recently reading that 4K hasn't been as successful as was originally assumed. Apparently, there are still many people who, despite having HD sets, still go from the beginning of the EPG's and don't bother with the HD variants!

19-10-2017, 16:38

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Originally Posted by Raider999

Whatever happens with BT Sport I do not expect to have to pay any more to get what I currently have.

So split BT Sport out and charge £20pm for it and I expect my package to go down by £20 to reflect the real value of BT Sport not the fictional "free" crap.

But the £20 would be the price charged to a limited number of subscribers to a premium package, not the price subsidised by all XL pack viewers, whether they are interested in the content or not.

spiderplant · 19-10-2017, 17:27

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Don't VM employees get TV for free anymore (only paying tax on the net worth of the free packages)?

They never have done. There is a staff discount, but it's not free.

RichardCoulter · 19-10-2017, 22:40

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Originally Posted by spiderplant

They never have done. There is a staff discount, but it's not free.

Oh right! I was wondering why it would matter to tweetiepooh if BT Sport left Full House as it would have still been free anyway as a standalone package, but unfortunately this wouldn't be the case.

bubblegun · 20-10-2017, 04:45

I'd love this to be true but I doubt it.
Liberty Global and BT are just embarking on the same type of negotiation that Discovery tried with Sky previously. One will back down and the status-quo will probably continue.

I have in the past speculated that BT would eventually make BT Sports unaffordable, for Virgin to include in their competitive packages. This could be an early step into that new future, but I don't expect it yet.

BT Fibre covers a lot of the areas where there is also Virgin BB so they may get brave and try this in the future. Eventually.

OLD BOY · 20-10-2017, 08:38

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Originally Posted by bubblegun

I'd love this to be true but I doubt it.
Liberty Global and BT are just embarking on the same type of negotiation that Discovery tried with Sky previously. One will back down and the status-quo will probably continue.

I have in the past speculated that BT would eventually make BT Sports unaffordable, for Virgin to include in their competitive packages. This could be an early step into that new future, but I don't expect it yet.

BT Fibre covers a lot of the areas where there is also Virgin BB so they may get brave and try this in the future. Eventually.

Well, if BT decide that they will abandon the wholesale deal, maybe it won't matter because other global players could take over these matches! One possible scenario is that Amazon dips its toe into the water by going for the smaller package before deciding whether to take on Sky. We are on the cusp of the market opening up, which will ultimately bring those lower prices people are looking for.

Joedm45 · 20-10-2017, 11:18

BT Sport for me, I get Atlantic for as little as £3-4 a month through NowTV. If BT went standalone I'm sure it'll be an absolute fortune in comparison.

The poll is effectively asking are you a sports fan or TV show fan. You'll always get a mixed response