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			Both driven by ego not whats in the best interest of the nation and Boris is a "my way or the highway" type neither one of them would deliver for the UK and how competent can he be when he gets his sums so wrong.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			24-09-2017, 23:58
			
			
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			Jonathan Pie - NSFW for obvious reasons:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9VX...&feature=share
He's spot on, too. Especially about J-C Juncker. He is indeed a prick, and his ridiculous bloviating has about as much chance of becoming a reality as my becoming PM.
 
Incidentally Corbyn doesn't want in the Single Market because he doesn't like the State Aid rules that come along with it. So if you like smaller government and free markets a post-Brexit Labour administration is likely to really disappoint you.  
 
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				Both driven by ego not whats in the best interest of the nation and Boris is a "my way or the highway" type neither one of them would deliver for the UK and how competent can he be when he gets his sums so wrong. 
			
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 One of the most depressing things about Boris Johnson is that he reeks of entitlement. Born to rule indeed. It's an attitude held by a number of Tories and, increasingly, those on the opposite benches as well.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			25-09-2017, 00:08
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  RizzyKing
					 
				 
				Both driven by ego not whats in the best interest of the nation and Boris is a "my way or the highway" type neither one of them would deliver for the UK and how competent can he be when he gets his sums so wrong. 
			
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 Agreed. I think that Old Boy said Johnson was Churchillian. If only, as we might then have a strong candidate for PM.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				God forbid, the present set are bad enough! 
			
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 Both sides are as bad as each other pip as they lied through their teeth then and up to this day they are still lying through their teeth sadly.  
 
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				Agreed. I think that Old Boy said Johnson was Churchillian. If only, as we might then have a strong candidate for PM. 
			
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 He is a very wise man is our Old Boy.  
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Agreed. I think that Old Boy said Johnson was Churchillian. If only, as we might then have a strong candidate for PM. 
			
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 I think he meant the dog from the advert...  
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				I think he meant the dog from the advert...   
			
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 He'd get my vote over our current shower of politicians
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			25-09-2017, 09:48
			
			
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				I think he meant the dog from the advert...   
			
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				He'd get my vote over our current shower of politicians 
			
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 He says what he means instead of the other lot  saying something that they don't mean.  
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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Philip Hammond's allies have accused Boris Johnson of being "simple minded" and warned that the Brexit transition period may need to be extended until after the next election.
			
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Never knew Philip Hammond was such a good judge of character     Next PM maybe ?
 
So the 2 year transition period is already being extended only days after it was announced  ! Maybe it will be become a 5/10/ever ongoing extension ....
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			I don't think Johnson is simple minded. I do, however, think he's a lazy, inattentive, egocentric demagogue who frames everything in how it helps him, personally, achieve his aims and goals. 
 
The joys of being insulated from most of the concerns that impact the plebs in their day to day lives, pretty much everything is not, and never has been, his problem. 
 
The transition must not become an ongoing extension. One way or the other it must come to an end; both for the sake of the UK, the EU, and the business relationships around the world waiting for finality.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				He says what he means instead of the other lot  saying something that they don't mean.   
			
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 I've only ever heard him say oh yes but he does sound like he means it I guess
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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				Agreed. I think that Old Boy said Johnson was Churchillian. If only, as we might then have a strong candidate for PM. 
			
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 Well, he appears to have the intellect and political instinct, but when he tries to express his thoughts it comes out as a joke! 
 
By the time he's about 70, the gravitas might start to appear.   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Well, he appears to have the intellect and  political instinct, but when he tries to express his thoughts it comes out as a joke! 
 
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 Really? He got the referendum result very wrong and did not see Gove creeping up behind him with a large knife in his hand   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Really? He got the referendum result very wrong and did not see Gove creeping up behind him with a large knife in his hand    
			
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 And he has still got that large knife waiting for the chance to stick it in the back of someone else.  
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				And he has still got that large knife waiting for the chance to stick it in the back of someone else.   
			
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 He might just fall on it himself with a bit of luck Den ! .  Why the Ice Queen invited Gove back in the cabinet is an utter mystery. She gave him the Dept. that is most tied up with the EU and faces the biggest Brexit issues. The old bat works in a very mysterious way, maybe in was just to give him a breakdown or annoy Bozza... Both, worthwhile reasons I guess.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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