Government & Post Election Discussion

[denphone]

Not often l agree with Guido but he is spot on with most of what he has said.

[tweetiepooh]

Shame that our political leaders are chosen on how they appear and not on how competent they are (with some exceptions). Those that play to the masses and know how to tweak the right buttons often do better than those who look less good, hopeless at social media but can keep calm in a crisis and steer an often unwilling vessel through treacherous waters.

[denphone]

Another Conservative manifesto pledge ditched.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...rom-650-to-600

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by denphone

Another Conservative manifesto pledge ditched.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...rom-650-to-600

Well, there's no point in pursuing the introduction of legislation that will clearly not be passed by the Commons because the numbers don't stack up. That would just be a waste of time.

The pledge will be implemented when the Government returns with the size of majority it needs.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Well, there's no point in pursuing the introduction of legislation that will clearly not be passed by the Commons because the numbers don't stack up. That would just be a waste of time.

The pledge will be implemented when the Government returns with the size of majority it needs.

What you mean not enough Turkeys would vote for Christmas.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Well, there's no point in pursuing the introduction of legislation that will clearly not be passed by the Commons because the numbers don't stack up. That would just be a waste of time.

The pledge will be implemented when the Government returns with the size of majority it needs.

That could be quite a while away given the Conservative party's deep discontent with their current leader.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...weak-hopeless/

[Osem]

Originally Posted by denphone

That could be quite a while away given the Conservative party's deep discontent with their current leader.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...weak-hopeless/

That's more than balanced by many Labour MP's deep discontent with Corbyn.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Osem

That's more than balanced by many Labour MP's deep discontent with Corbyn.

Both very poor leaders in my book as we are not exactly enamoured with even half capable leaders currently sadly as Theresa May was IMO fatally damaged at the last general election which should have never been held as her election campaign to cut a long story short was dreadful to say the least and Mr Corbyn well he has never been a leader IMO.

[Osem]

It's truly refreshing to hear Labour's Shadow Justice Secretary being so unequivocal about the prospect of illegal strikes being supported by Len McKluskey.

https://order-order.com/2017/09/12/b...legal-strikes/

The leader of Unite, Len McCluskey has said co-ordinated public sector industrial action on pay is "very much on the cards" in the coming months.
The boss of Britain's biggest union said he would go as far as to support illegal strike action in protest over the 1% public sector pay cap.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-41237242

Odd how these people find the simplest questions the hardest to answer isn't it. This must be more of Corbyn's 'new' politics...

Government wins another vote tonight. An Amendment has been voted against which would have denied the government a guaranteed majority on standing committees.

[denphone]

Killer George....

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...st-theresa-may

[Osem]

I can only assume the damage she did to his ego by daring to sack him has led to some form of psychological fixation. He's entitled to criticise as much and as vehemently as he likes but he's behaving like John McDonnell. It's not very edifying but at least he's no longer a serving member of Parliament unlike McDonnell.

[Mr K]

Looks like the DUP are going to vote with Labour over NHS pay and tuition fees. That's £1bn of bribe money (i.e. our money) well spent by Theresa...

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...y_to_clipboard

Originally Posted by Mr K

Looks like the DUP are going to vote with Labour over NHS pay and tuition fees. That's £1bn of bribe money (i.e. our money) well spent by Theresa...

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...y_to_clipboard

Actually the vote was not part of a Confidence and Supply arrangement. But the motion has passed anyway without any opposition.

---------- Post added at 18:07 ---------- Previous post was at 17:49 ----------

Originally Posted by Osem

I can only assume the damage she did to his ego by daring to sack him has led to some form of psychological fixation. He's entitled to criticise as much and as vehemently as he likes but he's behaving like John McDonnell. It's not very edifying but at least he's no longer a serving member of Parliament unlike McDonnell.

I think George should write a book, "What happened", oops someone's already beat him to that title...

Brexit completely scuppered his plans to become PM. Brexit was not meant to happen. We all know Cameron was to serve his last term in 2015, was we looking at another Blair/Brown scenario, Cameron resigns 2018/19 and Osborne steps up to PM. But because George was on the wrong side of Brexit and May played a back seat Remainer role, while George was telling us in no uncertain terms, Brexit would be a disaster and we would need to have an emergency budget.

When May finally became PM, George was left out in cold in the reshuffle, seems the knives were really out.

One lesson is never to get on the wrong side of Osborne. He is a fairly interesting character. He didn't even want the referendum, advised Cameron against it, but threw his entire career behind it. From what we know his real problem with May is not so much being fired but the way she did it. The guy holds a grudge.