U.S President: Donald Trump

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Don't really think that Mick is on trial here.
Be sensible, if you can. I won't hold my breath.

No one is on trial, I've just asked a reasonable question.
What you do with your breath is of no interest to me.

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Originally Posted by Pierre

Also I don't how you know, or indeed expect Mick to know, the capability of the USA nuclear arsenal.

The question wasn't what the capability is which is a harder question.#strawman. The question was -has it increased under Trump yes or no?

[Qtx]

Originally Posted by Hugh

There is lots of evidence of Russian interference in the election (nice diversion by using collusion rather than interference) - the US Intelligence Community are of one voice in stating that there has been Russian interference.

The actually rhetoric of Russia meddling was done in a way to make people think that they had hacked the voting results to give Trump the win, which was not the case.
All the major countries interfere with elections of other countries, especially America. Usually it's information war, leaks and flooding news, blogs and places with stories which benefit the side they want to win. Usually it's very subtle, other times not so.


The DNC hack was blamed on Russians but now it appears it was actually an insider with a USB stick, even though the CIA and whoever said they had High Confidence it was the Russians. The Guccifer/Guccifer 2 account was more likely to be Russian, even though they deny it being the case.



At a recent hacking convention, the usual voting machines were hacked once again by hackers, one of them even over wifi with no physical contact. Although there is no evidence of this happening during the election, I wouldn't put it past the NSA to have worked with the manufacturers and helped get overseas contracts to sell the voting machines

There were two nuclear ballistic missile systems being developed in the late nineties early noughties that were ahead of the then current stockpile and if they were near completion or had been completed but not implemented they would technically improve the capability. Trouble is as is so often the case with Trump he makes these statements with no actual evidence of substance to the statement leaving it open to interpretation another hang over from his business days that like most of his approaches doesn't translate well in the political world. I don't think he's yet understanding that he is in a whole new world with it's own culture and rules that doesn't just bend because that's what you tell it too.

He's still acting like a businessman who can say and do what he wants with at worst a drop in company value rather then someone acclimatising to his new roll where he has to back up his statements and comments and that there is more scrutiny then ever before. In the past his antics were easily written off as eccentric behaviour or just silliness and i think he got comfortable with that and is continuing it now when it's not appropriate.

[Mr K]

Well the Donald has admitted racism and the far right nutters are a bad thing at last. Better late than never, even if it came from an autocue and not from the heart. However the damage from his delay and insincerity has been done.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Well the Donald has admitted racism and the far right nutters are a bad thing at last. Better late than never, even if it came from an autocue and not from the heart. However the damage from his delay and insincerity has been done.

Agreed. There's yet another vacancy though as Trump's turnaround seems to have been motivated by the resignation of Merck chief executive Ken Frazier who tweeted that he had decided to resign from Donald Trump’s American Manufacturing Council “as a matter of personal conscience."

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Mr K

[Well the Donald has admitted racism and the far right nutters are a bad thing at last. Better late than never, even if it came from an autocue and not from the heart. However the damage from his delay and insincerity has been done.

He had to be insincere or else he'd be lumping his dad in with them. I have to admit a certain amount of sympathy for the origional protests, which as I understand it revolved around the proposed removal of a statue of Robert E Lee

[Osem]

A Missouri lawmaker is being investigated by the US Secret Service for saying she hopes President Donald Trump will be assassinated.
Democratic state senator Maria Chappelle-Nadal posted the comment on Facebook but later deleted it.
The Secret Service has confirmed they are "looking into the comments" and say "all threats against the President" will be investigated.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40973209

Presumably she won't be whining about it if some right wing nut job posts the same thing about her...

Originally Posted by Osem

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40973209

Presumably she won't be whining about it if some right wing nut job posts the same thing about her...

Her pathetic excuse is laughable.

She regrets her posting but says the anger remains against him because of his hate. Stupid woman. I hate the Clintons, Obama, but I would never stoop to wishing them dead!

Think she has been taking insanity lessons from Rosie O'Donnell.

Always fun when people find out you can't threaten to kill the President.

In other news, Independent is reporting in last half or hour or so that the President is considering his next firing....

.....Steve Bannon...

White House officials expect Donald Trump to fire Chief Strategist Steve Bannon after an internal review conducted by chief of staff John Kelly.

Mr Bannon has long been rumoured to be on the chopping block in the White House, but he has so far eluded termination. But, recent media coverage of Mr Bannon, including a conversation he had with the American Prospect, have reportedly caught the attention of both Mr Kelly and Donald Trump.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7900911.html

Rumour no more....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40980994

Bye bye Bannon.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Rumour no more....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40980994

Bye bye Bannon.

It's hard to have any sympathy for anyone in Trump's close circle who he soon fires. They're all equally detestable racist and biggoted backstabbers. Do you think Trump could fire himself by accident or tweet? It's possible....

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Rumour no more....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40980994

Bye bye Bannon.

I'd heard that Rupert Murdoch wanted him out but I thought that as Bannon had survived this long he would be ok.
I guess it follows the Trump philosophy of causing another distraction when things go against him. (In this case his poor handling of events in Charlottesville.)

Start the Oomph Loompa music! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg9EuFmo-VU

[1andrew1]

Whilst I'm no Clinton fan, she did accurately warn of his extreme side. https://www.indy100.com/article/hill..._campaign=i100