U.S President: Donald Trump

If he was to give himself a self pardon wouldn't he be admitting to having done wrong and end his presidency anyway. I'm really disappointed with Trump i hoped it would be the start of something good that might make it's way across the atlantic. Not all my american friends have changed their minds about Trump but there is a bigger sense of acceptance that he might be the answer they hoped but most still have hope he will turn it around. While not everyone was going to like Trump could the majority of people in the western democracies really say their politicians are ok and the political system is fine I don't think so.

[adzii_nufc]

The intern picture was pretty amusing, reporter just gets laughed at then shut down. So many revelations but very little piecing of it together. Trump is likely right though, there's nothing coming of this. The media doesn't help, the way it's portrayed in the US makes it seem like a giant joke which is then picked up by the anti-Trump agenda's who portray media pieces as a smoking gun... Which thus far it hasn't been. As I'm unaware of what the daily mail of the US is, its highly likely a lot of the mediocre level stuff comes from them.

In a few years we'll be back to the US having exclusive rights to interfere in foreign elections and we can put all this behind us.

Originally Posted by adzii_nufc

The intern picture was pretty amusing, reporter just gets laughed at then shut down. So many revelations but very little piecing of it together. Trump is likely right though, there's nothing coming of this. The media doesn't help, the way it's portrayed in the US makes it seem like a giant joke which is then picked up by the anti-Trump agenda's who portray media pieces as a smoking gun... Which thus far it hasn't been.

Who knows what will come of it? It doesn't help that everything was fake news until it wasn't. We wait and see if anything comes of it, nothing itself is a smoking gun but the special counsel is continuing the investigation.

Incidentally, following on from the civilian death toll under Obama, it's only getting larger under Trump: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...e-month-syria/

Anyway tomorrow the senate is voting on repealing Obamacare altogether. It's believed they won't have the votes but if they pass that's going to be a big.

[adzii_nufc]

Originally Posted by Damien

Who knows what will come of it? It doesn't help that everything was fake news until it wasn't. We wait and see if anything comes of it, nothing itself is a smoking gun but the special counsel is continuing the investigation.

Incidentally, following on from the civilian death toll under Obama, it's only getting larger under Trump: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...e-month-syria/

Anyway tomorrow the senate is voting on repealing Obamacare altogether. It's believed they won't have the votes but if they pass that's going to be a big.

Fake numbers remember. Of course we know they're probably not and the white house numbers have been cack for years. I think we all expected the strikes to continue and the civilian loss of life to continue. What I didn't expect was the lack of media scrutiny on it. I was certain Trump would get a hammering when the numbers started increasing. I guess current affairs may put it on the back burner.

As for Obamacare, could be the end of the 17 year stranglehold on the the US.

Obamacare was especially terrible during the Bush Jr. Presidency...

He is quoting Trump who made that mistake

Originally Posted by Hugh

Obamacare was especially terrible during the Bush Jr. Presidency...

Sorry to be pedantic but Bill Clinton was President 17 years ago as it was year 2000. Bush Jnr, was inaugurated President 20th Jan 2001.

Originally Posted by Mick

Sorry to be pedantic but Bill Clinton was President 17 years ago as it was year 2000. Bush Jnr, was inaugurated President 20th Jan 2001.

I was only quoting adzil who was quoting The Donald...

[Mr K]

The Donald's hair is FAKE, and that is a fact.

Originally Posted by Mr K

The Donald's hair is FAKE, and that is a fact.

I have to disagree - It's all his own, just creatively arranged...

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Hugh

I have to disagree - It's all his own, just creatively arranged...

just like the news

Originally Posted by papa smurf

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just like the news

And some corporations create their own salary structure for failing celebs and to hell with the gender pay gap.

Originally Posted by papa smurf

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just like the news

Yes, I have to agree - how unfair is it to quote his actual tweets, speeches, and actions; just what we've come to expect from them...

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Yes, I have to agree - how unfair is it to quote his actual tweets, speeches, and actions; just what we've come to expect from them...

if you keep grinding that axe there won't be anything left of it

Originally Posted by Hugh

Yes, I have to agree - how unfair is it to quote his actual tweets, speeches, and actions; just what we've come to expect from them...

Oh you missed the retractions then from the likes of gutter press liberal crap, New York Times and CNN on stories they have done about Trump?

That the same crappy NYT is happy to post intelligence leaks (including those from other countries, like Manchester Terrorist Attack pictures !)

Not seen footage of a CNN producer admitting Russia story has nothing to it. They are happy to carry it on because it drives up ratings. That he accuses Americans own CIA of interfering in foreign elections, hell, we had that from Obama last year remember?

The Trump hysteria in the media is in meltdown, they forget stories like Obama being caught saying to the Russians, he would have more flexibility after he got elected in his 2nd term, that there are very serious concerns Obama's Administration was perhaps guilty of allegedly, serious illegal spying on its own citizens.

The news is far from balanced and you mention unfairness. Yes it is when other leaders have done, been in, or acted on controversial actions and there has been far less screaming or hysteria.