Government & Post Election Discussion

[daveeb]

Originally Posted by Osem

I was warning about it before 2008. It wasn't rocket science that a big bust was on the way.

Anyway just in case anyone was tempted to think that Diane Abbott might have, at long last, got a grasp of basic figures pertaining to her brief we have this:

https://order-order.com/2017/07/20/d...numbers-gaffe/

Utterly inept.

Can anyone seriously imagine her as home secretary?

You should have sent the governor of Bank of England and the world banks a heads up.

As for Diane Abbott, i'd have to agree, she does keep scoring own goals. Can't see her lasting long.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by daveeb

You should have sent the governor of Bank of England and the world banks a heads up.

As for Diane Abbott, i'd have to agree, she does keep scoring own goals. Can't see her lasting long.

i don't like the woman but i think she may be i'll she seems to get very confused and seems to forget what she's doing .

[Osem]

Originally Posted by daveeb

You should have sent the governor of Bank of England and the world banks a heads up.

As for Diane Abbott, i'd have to agree, she does keep scoring own goals. Can't see her lasting long.

The banks were in on the chaos and the politicians supposedly regulating it all weren't in listening mode as the former HBOS executive who warned about what was going on and was slapped down found out. The same was happening elsewhere and the truth is they were all too busy making themselves look good by spending all that lovely tax revenue the banks were paying them to buy more votes. Gordon Brown eventually admitted to the regulatory failures which allowed the banking crisis to develop.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by daveeb

You should have sent the governor of Bank of England and the world banks a heads up.

As for Diane Abbott, i'd have to agree, she does keep scoring own goals. Can't see her lasting long.

Sadly, DA not getting the maths is not newsworthy these days. She needs to be in a role where a good level of numeracy is not so necessary and I'm surprised JC hasn't moved here elsewhere.

[Julian]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Sadly, DA not getting the maths is not newsworthy these days. She needs to be in a role where a good level of numeracy is not so necessary and I'm surprised JC hasn't moved here elsewhere.

It's not just maths though is it?

We should be grateful that more students didn't vote twice or that vile creature would actually have a position of authority.

Originally Posted by Julian

We should be grateful that more students didn't vote twice or that vile creature would actually have a position of authority.

Again I don't think much of Abbot's competence in that role but think describing her, or most people, as a 'vile creature' is nasty and hateful.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Damien

Again I don't think much of Abbot's competence in that role but think describing her, or most people, as a 'vile creature' is nasty and hateful.

She is vile, another of the do as I say not as I do types that pollutes politics, whose righteous indignation is greater than the sum of her talent, total waste of space and pretty repugnant to boot

[denphone]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

She is vile, another of the do as I say not as I do types that pollutes politics, whose righteous indignation is greater than the sum of her talent, total waste of space and pretty repugnant to boot

And there are certainly plenty of them in both leading political parties.

[Osem]

The only thing that surprises me about why Abbott's where she is that anyone would be surprised by it. It's been typical Labour tokenism in the past and now JC is in charge it's hardly a surprise that a close ally and former lover would be given such a post in spite of her abject performance. The fact is that if Labour was running the show right now we'd have Corbyn at the helm with McDonnell and Abbott in the key roles.

Throughout her career Abbott's been all to happy to offend, play the race card and the sex card yet when she's on the receiving end she's the first to complain and then start whining about how it's all affected her health. I certainly don't wish her ill but have no sympathy whatsoever.

[figgyburn]

Abbott, labour values,send children to private school.nuff said.

Who wouldn't if they have the money? However there is nothing wrong in trying to provide a level playing field for those who can't afford private education. If those with the money won't fight for those without what sort of world will we pass on to our children?

[Osem]

So after all the fuss Corbyn's just decided he didn't say/mean he'd pay off student debts despite the fact that that was the clear implication in what he said and none of his colleague did anything to dispel that notion before the election. Either he's lying or he was happy to deliberately mislead people into voting for Labour under a misapprehension of what was their policy. All this despite a number of post election comments by senior Labour figures who certainly didn't claim that it was all a misunderstanding.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-poli...f-student-debt

He's been caught out yet again. Making stuff up, promising to deliver what he knows he can't and now he's been rumbled and his broken 'promise' has gone viral he's in panic mode denying it all. What exactly did he mean when he talked about 'dealing with' the problem of existing student debt then? At no point before the election can I recall him challenging all the questions about how much his 'pledge' was going to cost etc. on the basis that it had been misrepresented by his political opponents and the media.

Having stood at PMQ's so many times representing himself and his party as occupying the moral high ground, those of us who didn't already know it ought now to be able to see the truth about Corbyn.

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Originally Posted by Maggy J

Who wouldn't if they have the money? However there is nothing wrong in trying to provide a level playing field for those who can't afford private education. If those with the money won't fight for those without what sort of world will we pass on to our children?

That's not the message Labour gives us when they're condemning the private education sector is it. They whine on and on about privilege ad nauseam whilst quietly enjoying plenty of it for themselves and their own. Principles? Yeah right.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Osem

So after all the fuss Corbyn's just decided he didn't say/mean he'd pay off student debts despite the fact that that was the clear implication in what he said and none of his colleague did anything to dispel that notion before the election. Either he's lying or he was happy to deliberately mislead people into voting for Labour under a misapprehension of what was their policy. All this despite a number of post election comments by senior Labour figures who certainly didn't claim that it was all a misunderstanding.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-poli...f-student-debt

He's been caught out yet again. Making stuff up, promising to deliver what he knows he can't and now he's been rumbled and his broken 'promise' has gone viral he's in panic mode denying it all. Having stood at PMQ's so many times representing himself and his party as occupying the moral high ground, those of us who didn't already know it ought now to be able to see the truth about Corbyn.

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That's not the message Labour gives us when they're condemning the private education sector is it. They whine on and on about privilege ad nauseam whilst quietly enjoying plenty of it for themselves and their own. Principles? Yeah right.

but that's only for the oik's yer average champagne socialist is all out trying to get a place for little joseph and nikita in private education .

[Julian]

Originally Posted by Osem

So after all the fuss Corbyn's just decided he didn't say/mean he'd pay off student debts despite the fact that that was the clear implication in what he said and none of his colleague did anything to dispel that notion before the election. Either he's lying or he was happy to deliberately mislead people into voting for Labour under a misapprehension of what was their policy. All this despite a number of post election comments by senior Labour figures who certainly didn't claim that it was all a misunderstanding.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-poli...f-student-debt

He's been caught out yet again. Making stuff up, promising to deliver what he knows he can't and now he's been rumbled and his broken 'promise' has gone viral he's in panic mode denying it all. What exactly did he mean when he talked about 'dealing with' the problem of existing student debt then? At no point before the election can I recall him challenging all the questions about how much his 'pledge' was going to cost etc. on the basis that it had been misrepresented by his political opponents and the media.

Having stood at PMQ's so many times representing himself and his party as occupying the moral high ground, those of us who didn't already know it ought now to be able to see the truth about Corbyn.

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That's not the message Labour gives us when they're condemning the private education sector is it. They whine on and on about privilege ad nauseam whilst quietly enjoying plenty of it for themselves and their own. Principles? Yeah right.

Someone will be along shortly to repeat for the umpteenth time that politicians from all parties lie, obfuscate etc etc etc

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Julian

Someone will be along shortly to repeat for the umpteenth time that politicians from all parties lie, obfuscate etc etc etc

That's a downright lie and you know it!!!