Government & Post Election Discussion

[Osem]

... and now the election is over Labour start the process of backtracking on all that money Corbyn promised to spend in return for student votes.

https://order-order.com/2017/07/16/m...-student-debt/

During the election Jeremy Corbyn vowed “I will deal with” those who had the “historical misfortune” of large student debts, promising he would “ameliorate” their situation and write it off. Last week Shadow Education Secretary Angela Rayner confirmed the policy, admitting: “It is a huge amount, it is £100 billion. I like a challenge, but we’ve got to start dealing with this debt crisis that we’re foisting on our young people. It’s not acceptable”.

Today John McDonnell u-turned on that key election promise which won the votes of so many students and young people, telling Marr it was just “an ambition” and conceding for the first time “it’s very difficult” to do.

Well I didn't see this coming at all...

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Osem

... and now the election is over Labour start the process of backtracking on all that money Corbyn promised to spend in return for student votes.

https://order-order.com/2017/07/16/m...-student-debt/



Well I didn't see this coming at all...

it's easy to be popular when you offer the world without costing it and lets face it they knew they would come second and would never have to deliver .

[Osem]

But who'd fall for that?

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

it's easy to be popular when you offer the world without costing it and lets face it they knew they would come second and would never have to deliver .

I think you may have inadvertently raised a good point. Are they changing their manifesto now because they believe that they could form the next government sooner than later? There's ongoing rumours of summer infighting in the Conservative Party so who could be the next PM by Christmas? David Davis, Theresa May. Or even JC?

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Osem

But who'd fall for that?

young gullible voters

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I think you may have inadvertently raised a good point. Are they changing their manifesto now because they believe that they could form the next government sooner than later? There's ongoing rumours of summer infighting in the Conservative Party so who could be the next PM by Christmas? David Davis, Theresa May. Or even JC?

even if may is ousted there is no mandate for a general election the party will elect a new leader , there won't be any forming a new government , just a reshuffle of the existing one .

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

young gullible voters

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even if may is ousted there is no mandate for a general election the party will elect a new leader , there won't be any forming a new government , just a reshuffle of the existing one .

I think you're right but the chances of a general election have increased so Labour needs to get its ducks in a row just in case.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I think you're right but the chances of a general election have increased so Labour needs to get its ducks in a row just in case.

Keep dreaming Andrew.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I think you're right but the chances of a general election have increased so Labour needs to get its ducks in a row just in case.

http://researchbriefings.parliament....ummary/SN06111

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by pip08456

Keep dreaming Andrew.

It's a fact, I'm not saying I want it.

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

http://researchbriefings.parliament....ummary/SN06111

lol, is that really worth the website it's hosted on? Theresa May showed it's not. I bet she wished the Act was more robust than it turned out to be.

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Davis allies accused of smearing PM’s husband
Allies of David Davis were accused of smearing Theresa May’s husband last night as they claimed that Philip May was urging the prime minister to resign.
A close friend of the Brexit secretary said that “those who love” May want her to take the initiative and stand down.
May and her husband are travelling to Switzerland next week for a walking holiday in the country where Margaret Thatcher used to relax. Friends of Davis are openly speculating that she could use the trip to decide to walk away from Downing Street. She used a hiking holiday in Wales at Easter to reverse her opposition to a general election.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/n...band-0r3mk6g9h

[Gavin78]

Labour yes all promise no deliver? Now they are turning their backs on their own costed manifesto.

Want student fees payed for well sign here......

T&C

Upon signing we wont actually be giving free students fees but it's an idea that will get you to voting for us.

PS. Don't bother reading the T&C the fine print is so small you can't actually see it hahahaha!!!!

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Gavin78

Labour yes all promise no deliver? Now they are turning their backs on their own costed manifesto.

Want student fees payed for well sign here......

T&C

Upon signing we wont actually be giving free students fees but it's an idea that will get you to voting for us.

PS. Don't bother reading the T&C the fine print is so small you can't actually see it hahahaha!!!!

Typical Labour lies. They're famous for it just like when Harold Wilson devalued Sterling and told everyone it wouldn't affect the value of the pound in their pockets.

[Pierre]

I wouldn't expect a GE until after Brexit.

There maybe, probably will be. A new PM before that.

I reckon new PM at Brexit. GE after Brexit.

Corbyn remains a ttwat

[Osem]

... and this is how seriously Labour takes the problem of the abuse of MP's, much of which emanates from the hard left which as we all know is keeping Corbyn's cronies afloat.

Labour last night used a spurious three hour plus-long debate on procedure to block the scheduled debate on hard-left abuse of MPs. The Commons was supposed to spend the day discussing the abuse received by MPs during the election, instead Labour filibustered with a nonsense debate about how many debates they get to have until well into the night. As Anna Soubry quite rightly said:

“As a result of Labour’s filibusting tonight, this chamber will not debate the appalling abuse which many women candidates on this side of the House endured during the general election from the hard-left… There are many members on this side of the House that stood up for women on that side of the House when they were abused by their hard-left leadership.”

https://order-order.com/2017/07/18/l...-abuse-of-mps/

Yep it's back to the nasty 1970's with Corbyn who supposedly wanted a new type of politics but it's never long before their mask slips and we get to see what they're really like. They say one thing and do another, make promises they know they can't keep and do all they can to prevent a debate on on abuse/intimidation. Nice.

Yep, they really are a breath of fresh air aren't they...

I can't find anything about this on the BBC website which is odd because it was only a few days ago that they were telling us all about the abuse Dianne Abbott complained of...

[pip08456]

You didn't really expect it to be on the beeb did you? ??

[Osem]

Originally Posted by pip08456

You didn't really expect it to be on the beeb did you? ??

Would you believe that some folks around here seem to think the Beeb is pro-Tory...

Of course Corbyn's right hand man happens to be the son of a former BBC Director general so he clearly doesn't have any connections whatsoever with them.

He's been in the news quite a lot recently but the Beeb hasn't covered that either...