U.S President: Donald Trump

Originally Posted by passingbat

So, why didn't the DNC give the FBI access to the actual machine? Did they have something to hide, such as screwing over Bernie Sanders? Makes you wonder.

Well, it didn't seem to matter to the FBI.

I wonder why the hackers didn't release the RNC information? Did they have something to hide? Makes you wonder.

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by Hugh

I wonder why the hackers didn't release the RNC information? Did they have something to hide? Makes you wonder.

Agreed.

Originally Posted by Hugh

Well, it didn't seem to matter to the FBI.

Wonder if that was former US Attorney General's Lyretta Lynch's doing... given she wasn't classing what was a, 'Criminal Investigation' in to Hillary's email server, instead referring it to a 'matter', oh no, actually that's what she told Comey to say it was to the press because this was the same language the Clinton campaign was using.

But the whole investigation was pathetic anyway. Pages and pages of FBI official documentation has been released into the half-arsed investigation. Heavily redacted but still telling nonetheless.

https://vault.fbi.gov/hillary-r.-clinton

Email devices, phones without their simcards, ipads, blackberry's all wiped before being handed over. Phones that could not be wiped, instead hammered. Smell of 'Obstruction of justice'.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mick

Wonder if that was former US Attorney General's Lyretta Lynch's doing... given she wasn't classing what was a, 'Criminal Investigation' in to Hillary's email server, instead referring it to a 'matter', oh no, actually that's what she told Comey to say it was to the press because this was the same language the Clinton campaign was using.

But the whole investigation was pathetic anyway. Pages and pages of FBI official documentation has been released into the half-arsed investigation. Heavily redacted but still telling nonetheless.

https://vault.fbi.gov/hillary-r.-clinton

Email devices, phones without their simcards, ipads, blackberry's all wiped before being handed over. Phones that could not be wiped, instead hammered. The smell of 'Obstruction of justice'.

To me, Hilary is history, was never President and there's plenty of threads about her anyway. What's more relevant on a thread about Trump is some considered thoughts on the current situation. Fortunately, Sky News has come to the rescue:

Donald Trump Jr's emails show him enthusiastically responding to the offer of help from the Russian government to interfere in the US election.
It is an offence not to report such interference.
Mr Trump Jr says no useful help materialised in that meeting, but that may not be enough to extricate him from legal jeopardy.
The Watergate Scandal that brought down Richard Nixon established the principle that presidents may be held accountable for the actions of their officials.
Congressional committees will now haul Mr Trump Jr in for a grilling. His testimony under oath may play an important role in determining the fate of his father's presidency.
Equally important will be the information investigators have already gathered about the meeting and others, but not yet made public.

http://news.sky.com/story/russia-ema...dency-10946416

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

To me, Hilary is history, was never President and there's plenty of threads about her anyway. What's more relevant on a thread about Trump is some considered thoughts on the current situation. Fortunately, Sky News has come to the rescue:

http://news.sky.com/story/russia-ema...dency-10946416

The FBI document dump is a 'current situation' as it just happened.

I have already outlined Trump's fate in a early post, Damien could also be right in one aspect also, so no, Sky News, they have not come to rescue at all and you cannot just brush obstruction of justice in one case, to one side when it suits Andrew.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mick

The FBI document dump is a 'current situation' as it just happened.

I have already outlined Trump's fate in a early post, Damien could also be right in one aspect also, so no, Sky News, they have not come to rescue at all and you cannot just brush obstruction of justice in one case, to one side when it suits Andrew.

She may well have been obstructive but if so, her misadventures merit their own narrative thread? I'm interested in reading about Trump but every time I visit the thread, someone always seems to try and divert attention away to Hillary. I'm sure it's intended well but I'm here to read about the President, not a former Secretary of State.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

She may well have been obstructive but if so, her misadventures merit their own narrative thread? I'm interested in reading about Trump but every time I visit the thread, someone always seems to try and divert attention away to Hillary. I'm sure it's intended well but I'm here to read about the President, not a former Secretary of State.

You're out of luck as they are interconnected because they shared the same Election race and as Trump himself keeps bringing her up, she is relevant in this thread.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Mick

If you ask me, I think Trump is bored of the Presidency, I got that impression last week at the G20, it seemed an effort for him to be there, in one photo opportunity, he seemed uninterested and our own PM tapped him twice on the shoulders to get him to turn around and in one meeting at the G20, he stepped out of it and he got his own daughter, Ivanka to sit in which rightfully raised a few eyebrows. I do not usually jump in on the criticism bandwagon but that was totally wrong her sitting there like that.

Might be an accurate assessment, I did wonder if he'd get bored once he realised it's really, really hard for politicians to get anything done, must be hard for business people used to getting things done their own way ASAP to step into this environment plus his wife looked thoroughly bored with it all on day one, at the inauguration

Originally Posted by Mick

You're out of luck as they are interconnected because they shared the same Election race and as Trump himself keeps bringing her up, she is relevant in this thread.

Why does he keep bringing her up, you think he'd want to keep quiet about not locking her up

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Hugh

The RNC was hacked as well, just not released.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKBN14U2DD

Russia hacked into Republican state political campaigns and old email domains of the Republican National Committee but there is no evidence it successfully penetrated President-elect Donald Trump's campaign, FBI Director James Comey said on Tuesday.

So nothing connected to the Presidential campaign was successful. Shows that whoever was responsible did try. Why would a Trump supporter try to hack them?

Comey also told lawmakers Russia did not release information obtained from the state campaigns or the old RNC email domains, comments that may buttress the U.S. intelligence view that Moscow tried to help Trump against Democrat Hillary Clinton in the 2016 campaign.
U.S. intelligence agencies on Friday released an assessment that Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered a covert effort to help Republican Trump's electoral chances by discrediting Clinton.

Views and assessments are hardly proof. You wouldn't need to be physically in Russia to do anything. You could set up shop in the US and nobody could possibly connect anything.

Still really have seen what was meant to have an impact that was enough to change anything. How many of the voters would have been thoroughly analysing any report? Any potential impact would not only had to have been enough to overturn the onslaught from the media/Hollywood(some of whom would have been foreigners) and foreign governments, but to turn voters towards him and not simply not voting for Hillary. Quite some achievement, whatever it was.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

She may well have been obstructive but if so, her misadventures merit their own narrative thread? I'm interested in reading about Trump but every time I visit the thread, someone always seems to try and divert attention away to Hillary. I'm sure it's intended well but I'm here to read about the President, not a former Secretary of State.

But this is all meant to be about Trump winning by supposedly attacking Presidential candidate, Hillary. So it's definitely relevant. How can it not be?

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

She may well have been obstructive but if so, her misadventures merit their own narrative thread? I'm interested in reading about Trump but every time I visit the thread, someone always seems to try and divert attention away to Hillary. I'm sure it's intended well but I'm here to read about the President, not a former Secretary of State.

i feel your pain i keep visiting the brexit thread and a couple of wallys keep banging on about staying in the EU i'm only interested in leaving .......

Originally Posted by Mick

Wonder if that was former US Attorney General's Lyretta Lynch's doing... given she wasn't classing what was a, 'Criminal Investigation' in to Hillary's email server, instead referring it to a 'matter', oh no, actually that's what she told Comey to say it was to the press because this was the same language the Clinton campaign was using.

But the whole investigation was pathetic anyway. Pages and pages of FBI official documentation has been released into the half-arsed investigation. Heavily redacted but still telling nonetheless.

https://vault.fbi.gov/hillary-r.-clinton

Email devices, phones without their simcards, ipads, blackberry's all wiped before being handed over. Phones that could not be wiped, instead hammered. Smell of 'Obstruction of justice'.

Actually, we were discussing the DNC servers which were hacked by the Russians (according to the US Intelligence Community), not Hillary Clinton's email servers - two different things, often conflated.

[papa smurf]

ALIENS warned about Donald Trump: ET Abductees' told of 'threat to Earth,' claims expert

PEOPLE allegedly abducted by aliens were warned by ETs that "something bad was coming" during the US presidential election campaign last year, it has shockingly been claimed.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/...estival-aliens

people abducted "feel a sense of urgency and fear for the future" as a result.

wow this explains it all

is this the smoking phasor you have been waiting for

[pip08456]

It's Phasers but I think they've now updated to Blasters (they give a bigger kick!).

Sounds like she's made a good living out of abductees over 25yrs and wants to keep the dollars coming in!

When the French Army plays Daft Punk to Donald Trump.

https://twitter.com/franceinfo/statu...03763818221568

Surreal...

(properly kicks off around 0:43 in)

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Hugh

When the French Army plays Daft Punk to Donald Trump.

https://twitter.com/franceinfo/statu...03763818221568

Surreal...

(properly kicks off around 0:43 in)

Really funny. Generational differences. Trump should have sent his daughter. https://www.facebook.com/Channel4New...type=2&theater