U.S President: Donald Trump

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

From the linked article:"The US President has tweeted...

And what did he say in his tweet? Do you know because I do.

Originally Posted by pip08456

Please explain how Trump is responsible for this.

Someone will have edited it, Trump posted it as he is fighting back and rightly so, they, CNN and MSM and the pathetic liberal media have pushed this false Russian narrative since day one, so much so that even they admit there is nothing to it but they carry on with the narrative because it drives up ratings, they forgot their basic morals of reporting accurate, unbiased and credible news.

I had to laugh at 'he's inciting violence' part, didn't a former CNN presenter get fired for posting images of carrying a depiction of a bloody severed head which just happen to look like Trump?

'False Russian narrative'?

Didn't Trump state that the Russians had meddled in the US Presudential elections?

Also, shouldn't the President be held to a higher standard than a reporter? Could you begin to imagine the outrage if President Obama had tweeted a GIF of himself bodyslamming a Fox News reporter?

Double standards, much?

Originally Posted by Hugh

'False Russian narrative'?

Didn't Trump state that the Russians had meddled in the US Presudential elections?

Get with the program Hugh, we have moved beyond the fact that the Russians meddled in the US Election. The Russian narrative is Trump supposedly having colluded with the Russians to hack the DNC. That is what has had a long drawn out investigation in to the matter but Trump himself has not been under FBI investigation for it.

Originally Posted by Hugh

Also, shouldn't the President be held to a higher standard than a reporter? Could you begin to imagine the outrage if President Obama had tweeted a GIF of himself bodyslamming a Fox News reporter?

Double standards, much?

President Obama and his administration was allegedly, too busy spying on people, illegally.

[Mr K]

The Vice president in action at NASA

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Mr K

The Vice president in action at NASA

Even a village fool like me would understand that clear message.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by denphone

Even a village fool like me would understand that clear message.

bit of spit and an old rag it'll be as good as new

Originally Posted by denphone

Even a village fool like me would understand that clear message.

Typical of Mr K telling half a story.

Pence later joked he was dared to touch it by Sen. Rubio. And NASA also later came out to say the notice was a everyday general notice and that as papa says, a bit of spit and polish and it's good to go, it's a sheet of metal at the end of the day.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by denphone

Even a village fool like me would understand that clear message.

Yes, Den, but he is just breaking the mould by being off message and hands on.

[1andrew1]

Will be interesting to see how this works out. Even Trump who's partial to things being named after him has been keen to avoid too close an association to this.

Republican ‘kamikaze’ healthcare plan on life support

This is the week Republicans have craved for more than seven years — their chance to repeal Obamacare. Some time in the next few days the US Senate will either scrap most of Barack Obama’s signature achievement — the 2010 Affordable Care Act. Or they will abandon the effort for failure to find the votes. Either way, America is at a fraught crossroads in its never-ending healthcare saga.

If the Senate bill passes, up to 22m Americans could lose their insurance. Many more will experience a sharp reduction in healthcare support. If the vote fails, Obamacare will survive but very much as a zombie law — a stay of execution, rather than a pardon. The battle will continue. Neither outcome would be for keeps.

“Whatever happens, we are entering a period of deep uncertainty that will cause entirely avoidable damage to the US healthcare system,” says Douglas Elmendorf, dean of the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard — and former head of the Congressional Budget Office. “This is a textbook example of how not to make legislation.”

https://www.ft.com/content/2d8996d8-...6-7b38dcaef614

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40565091

Donald Trump Junior was informed that information offered by a Russian lawyer was part of a Russian government effort to help his father's election campaign, the New York Times reports.

This would be the first time there has been a clear link. Where someone on Trump's campaign knowingly would have received information from Russia to help win the election. The information has apparently also been passed to the various committees in congress and the investigation.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Damien

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40565091



This would be the first time there has been a clear link. Where someone on Trump's campaign knowingly would have received information from Russia to help win the election. The information has apparently also been passed to the various committees in congress and the investigation.

I'm sure Trump supporters will be urged to deny this as fake news from the mainstream media. But I'm more interested in who leaked it? Maybe Russia to keep Trump busy and less focused on issues like Ukraine and Syria?

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Damien

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40565091



This would be the first time there has been a clear link. Where someone on Trump's campaign knowingly would have received information from Russia to help win the election. The information has apparently also been passed to the various committees in congress and the investigation.

Apparently no information was actually given, and if it had been, SO WHAT.

The people responsible for any wrongdoing or damaging information are the ones creating it, NOT the ones revealing it.

Whatever supposed "interference" by Russia, it pales into extreme insignificance compared to the foreign interference against Trump and the Republican campaign in general.

Originally Posted by nomadking

Apparently no information was actually given, and if it had been, SO WHAT..

Because it could well be seen as collusion with the illegal actions of a foreign state in order to win an election, that's why.

If you can't see why that would be a problem I suggest you replace Trump with Corbyn. Let's say there were a number of stories whereby Russia (or a state you like less, let's say Germany) had committed a cyberattack against the Conservative Party and then asked to meet Corbyn's allies because they have damaging information that could help them win the election would you really be saying 'so what'?

The only reason it wouldn't literally be traitorous is because apparently you need to be in a state of war with the other party. It's complicity in the attack against the country by a foreign power.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Damien

Because it could well be seen as collusion with the illegal actions of a foreign state in order to win an election, that's why.

If you can't see why that would be a problem I suggest you replace Trump with Corbyn. Let's say there were a number of stories whereby Russia (or a state you like less, let's say Germany) had committed a cyberattack against the Conservative Party and then asked to meet Corbyn's allies because they have damaging information that could help them win the election would you really be saying 'so what'?

The only reason it wouldn't literally be traitorous is because apparently you need to be in a state of war with the other party. It's complicity in the attack against the country by a foreign power.

So who created and wrongdoing or damaging information? The Democrats, and nobody else.

Mrs Clinton's aide Huma Abedin, usually known for her unflinching loyalty, was blunt in her criticism of her boss over a Clinton Foundation summit in Morocco.
...

The implication from the leaked emails is that a $12m donation from the king of Morocco was dependent on Mrs Clinton attending the summit.

As the emails show, the ties that Mr Miliband and Mr Bisogniero, as well as other foreign officials, have with Clinton advisors run deep.

No foreign involvement there.


Many organisations and individuals get hacking attempts and many of them from the UK and from elsewhere outside Russia.


Still mystified by what actually is meant to have influenced anything, other than possibly revealing the truth? What was it? Can anybody point out what is ultimately meant to have swung anything?


Trump had to first win the Republican selection process, so what evidence is there of interference in that?