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			27-06-2017, 11:28
			
			
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				And when we do leave the EU the question is where will that money go then? as l would not put much faith in it being used wisely. 
			
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 that's a question for government to answer
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			27-06-2017, 11:32
			
			
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				And when we do leave the EU the question is where will that money go then? as l would not put much faith in it being used wisely that is for sure. 
			
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 It's all going to the NHS Den,  Bozza promised   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			27-06-2017, 11:36
			
			
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				It's all going to the NHS Den,  Bozza promised    
			
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 i think you will find it was a suggestion as to what we could do with our money not a statement of fact .
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			27-06-2017, 11:37
			
			
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 Luckily May rescued a few branches of the magic money tree from the enchanted tax evasion forest to grease the palms of the DUP with. 
You can be sure they'll be back for more soon.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			27-06-2017, 11:40
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  papa smurf
					 
				 
				that's a question for government to answer 
			
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 Well we all know how much they obfuscate when it comes to that....
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			27-06-2017, 11:47
			
			
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				Well we all know how much they obfuscate when it comes to that.... 
			
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 depends who's in power - if it's corbyn it'll no doubt go into lifting the cap on scrounging [have to look after the core voters ]  
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			27-06-2017, 12:01
			
			
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				And when we do leave the EU the question is where will that money go then? as l would not put much faith in it being used wisely that is for sure. 
			
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 It's not being used wisely right now Den, how many times has the likes of Greece been bailed out? 
 
You have other EU membership countries paying next to nothing and getting more back than it contributes, there is 18 countries that are being piggy backed, yet we and 9 other members get fleeced regardless.
 
They have opened the door to countries that offer nothing, but come with cap in hand when the going gets tough.   
If you was in a club and you had members getting all the benefits you are, but they are not paying what you are, you would soon get pissed off.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			27-06-2017, 12:08
			
			
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				It's not being used wisely right now Den, how many times has the likes of Greece been bailed out? 
 
You have other EU membership countries paying next to nothing and getting more back than it contributes, there is 18 countries that are being piggy backed, yet we and 9 other members get fleeced regardless.
 
They have opened the door to countries that offer nothing, but come with cap in hand when the going gets tough.   
If you was in a club and you had members getting all the benefits you are, but they are not paying what you are, you would soon get pissed off.  
			
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 l agree but when we are out of the EU don't take it as a gimme that it will be wisely used then Mick because in all likelihood it won't be.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			27-06-2017, 12:09
			
			
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				It's all going to the NHS Den,  Bozza promised    
			
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 Sigh... an old and tired argument....He did not promise, he was not in a position to offer it or act on it. 'Let's give' is a suggestion. 
 
I saw what papa said about membership fee and I just thought watch someone quite pathetically throw the argument about the 'suggestion' of the 350 Million going to NHS and here we are.   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			27-06-2017, 12:14
			
			
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				i think you will find it was a suggestion as to what we could do with our money not a statement of fact . 
			
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 Bit like the Tory manifesto...  Little of it is actually going to happen.  
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			27-06-2017, 12:15
			
			
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				depends who's in power - if it's corbyn it'll no doubt go into lifting the cap on scrounging [ have to look after the core voters ]   
			
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 Looking at some online info many of their core voters would be working l would imagine as would quite a few Conservative  voters would be of the older vintage.
 https://yougov.co.uk/news/2017/06/13...eral-election/
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			27-06-2017, 12:17
			
			
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				l agree but when we are out of the EU don't take it as a gimme that it will be wisely used then Mick because in all likelihood it won't be. 
			
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 I trust it more in Tory hands than Labour's Dens and certainly not in the hands of McDonnell, the Marxist, terrorist honouring traitor and his communist pals, Corbyn and co.   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			27-06-2017, 12:19
			
			
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				I trust it more in Tory hands than Labour's Dens and certainly not in the hands of McDonnell, the Marxist, terrorist honouring traitor and his communist pals, Corbyn and co.    
			
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 l have no faith in either as at the end of the day its about what each individual thinks of their policies and whether they suit them.  
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			27-06-2017, 12:30
			
			
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				I trust it more in Tory hands than Labour's Dens and certainly not in the hands of McDonnell, the Marxist, terrorist honouring traitor and his communist pals, Corbyn and co.    
			
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 atm the Conservatives are following Labours manifesto, not their own... Maybe Corbyn is in power behind the scenes and he's holding one the the strings on the Theresa puppet, DUP the other.......   
 
Can't wait for some votes in Parliament, it's not like Tory backbenchers to be trouble.  Some of the remainer Tories are threatening to join Labour on Brexit votes, it'd only take a few.  I certainly think foxes can sleep easier      I've put BBC Parliament down as one of my favourites, should be fun, much better than poxy Sky Atlantic anyway   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			27-06-2017, 12:40
			
			
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				atm the Conservatives are following Labours manifesto, not their own... Maybe Corbyn is in power behind the scenes and he's holding one the the strings on the Theresa puppet, DUP the other....... 
			
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 They are not following that piece of garbage at all. What on Earth have you been smoking?     
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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