The 2017 General Election - Page 33

RichardCoulter · 20-06-2017, 17:53

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Originally Posted by Chris

He'll be 78 when the 2021 election is called. I'm all in favour of people being active in old age but how can he seriously go to the country and ask for an electoral mandate that would be expected to take him up to the age of 83?

I didn't realise that was his age.

It was on Channel 5 earlier that he is to stand for Lib Dem leader.

denphone · 20-06-2017, 18:13

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Originally Posted by Dave42

another election coming sooner now

Its inevitable Dave if no deal is done.

Ken W · 20-06-2017, 18:26

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Originally Posted by denphone

Its inevitable Dave if no deal is done.

Teresa may was a fool to call the snap election, she should have been satisfied with her majority.

denphone · 20-06-2017, 19:15

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Originally Posted by Ken W

Teresa may was a fool to call the snap election, she should have been satisfied with her majority.

Selfish party political gain came before the country..

Dave42 · 20-06-2017, 19:46

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Originally Posted by denphone

Selfish party political gain came before the country..

and it came back to bite her butt big time

**Mick** · 20-06-2017, 20:13

But not really. She made a gamble, played a poor hand but she was not wiped out, she used her Trump card with the DUP.

Meanwhile, the other players round the table folded far too soon.

UKIP folded their cards almost straight away, followed by Greens.

Liberal Democrats lasted more rounds than expected.

Labour thought they could show their Ace card but Diane Abbott didn't way up Labour's hand well and they were left a few cards short of a Royal flush.

To conclude, wasn't much money left in the winning pot, Labour borrowed it to pay for everyone's lunch. In the end, no one won anything huge outright.

Arthurgray50@blu · 20-06-2017, 20:25

I think again she will shoot herself in the foot. The Government has stated that they will keep the Police funding at the same level.

But other forces will suffer.

Every force in the country needs more funding and more officers.

Thames Valley Force is the second largest force in the country. It stretches from Windsor right up to Gloucester.

This is what is wrong at the moment. We have terrorism on our streets every couple of weeks. And the resources are stretched to the limit.

Its all about saving money - so that the rich can have all the breaks necessary, and that we can send more money abroad.

Its about time this country, looked after its own people first.

Dave42 · 20-06-2017, 20:27

no she wasn't wiped out but she had a majority and expected a landside lost her majority and it came back to bite her butt and struggling with her coalition of chaos

denphone · 20-06-2017, 20:30

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Originally Posted by Mick

But not really. She made a gamble, played a poor hand but she was not wiped out, she used her Trump card with the DUP.

Meanwhile, the other players round the table folded far too soon.

UKIP folded their cards almost straight away, followed by Greens.

Liberal Democrats lasted more rounds than expected.

Labour thought they could show their Ace card but Diane Abbott didn't way up Labour's hand well and they were left a few cards short of a Royal flush.

To conclude, wasn't much money left in the winning pot, Labour borrowed it to pay for everyone's lunch. In the end, no one won anything huge outright.

But she was expected to win by a landslide according to the pollsters and those close to her and even many of the public thought that as well.

Taking any biased politics out of it she is right in the brown stuff as once voters get that perception its very hard to shift as you know but then if they get rid of her then a even worse scenario will face them when they come before the electorate again.

heero_yuy · 20-06-2017, 20:50

One of the real mistakes was to play for a long election fight to allow JC to make endless unfunded promises of free money. Should have been a real snap election to catch Labour on the back foot while the polls were pro Tory.

The manifesto was a total disaster. Who ever wrote that should be taken out the back and shot. Fox hunting FGS.

**Mick** · 20-06-2017, 21:01

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Originally Posted by Dave42

no she wasn't wiped out but she had a majority and expected a landside lost her majority and it came back to bite her butt and struggling with her coalition of chaos

As I said she played her hand, hedged her bets but she did not lose all her money.

Labour spent all theirs and wanted to borrow more to pay for all their uncosted promises.

Mr K · 20-06-2017, 22:21

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Originally Posted by Mick

As I said she played her hand, hedged her bets but she did not lose all her money.

Labour spent all theirs and wanted to borrow more to pay for all their uncosted promises.

The only reason she's still there is that the Tories realise a new leader would almost certainly mean a another General Election, which they'd lose. They hate her, but they can't dump her atm.

As for Labour 'spending all their money' , I think you'll find they have a lot more resources than the Tories; Labour party membership 517,000, Conservatives 150,000 (decreasing by the day due to the inevitable effects of old age....)

Dave42 · 20-06-2017, 22:39

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Originally Posted by Mr K

The only reason she's still there is that the Tories realise a new leader would almost certainly mean a another General Election, which they'd lose. They hate her, but they can't dump her atm.

As for Labour 'spending all their money' , I think you'll find they have a lot more resources than the Tories; Labour party membership 517,000, Conservatives 150,000 (decreasing by the day due to the inevitable effects of old age....)

in term of members only as in raising money tories 3 times ahead

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Gavin78 · 20-06-2017, 22:39

What makes you think they would lose another General Election?

20-06-2017, 22:51

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Originally Posted by Mr K

The only reason she's still there is that the Tories realise a new leader would almost certainly mean a another General Election, which they'd lose. They hate her, but they can't dump her atm.

As for Labour 'spending all their money' , I think you'll find they have a lot more resources than the Tories; Labour party membership 517,000, Conservatives 150,000 (decreasing by the day due to the inevitable effects of old age....)

Has it ever occurred to you that students grow up, and due to their education, tend to become middle class and vote Tory!