18-06-2017, 23:10
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Re: The 2017 General Election
Don't know how true this is. David Davis has one or two things in his inbox at the moment.
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David Davis tipped to become the next Conservative leader by Boris Johnson's allies as Theresa May's ministers refuse to back her
David Davis has emerged as the unity candidate to lead the Conservative Party after he was tipped for the post by allies of Boris Johnson.
The Brexit secretary is being touted as a candidate to take Britain past the March 2019 date when Britain is expected to leave the EU if the Prime Minister quits suddenly.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...vative-leader/
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18-06-2017, 23:18
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Re: The 2017 General Election
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However there hasn't been a true left wing govt for 40 years
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Yeah, that would be because we don't want one. That's the way democracy works.
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so if you're happy with the way society and the country has gone since then, then fair enough
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Since the 70's? Yeah I think we've come a long way since the 70's.
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keep blaming everything that goes wrong on 'lefties' from decades ago, as some would say it's 'pathetic'
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Absolute bollocks. We all know the ultimate fallback position, for anything, is that it's "Thatchers" fault. Nobody blames the lefties for anything because Mrs T sorted it all out. We just don't to go back there.
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Labour may not have won the election but they've dealt the Govt. a fatal blow;
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Thvsame way Gordon Brown dealt David Cameron a fatal crushing blow.
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the tide is turning, and the Tories are pressing the self destruct as usual.
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I won't disagree there, Tories are on self destruct and Labour still can't take advantage.
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The young are now engaged and voting, and the middle class are beginning to see the light.
(why is this forum coloured blue btw?  )
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The young like free stuff.
And the " middle class" outside of the M25 still hold sway.
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18-06-2017, 23:44
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Re: The 2017 General Election
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The young like free stuff.
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Who doesn't? The young don't have a monopoly on this! Pensioners have been handed free stuff eg free bus travel, free tv licences etc to secure their votes. Buying votes aka "appealing to demographics" is not new.
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19-06-2017, 00:06
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Re: The 2017 General Election
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Who doesn't? The young don't have a monopoly on this! Pensioners have been handed free stuff eg free bus travel, free tv licences etc to secure their votes. Buying votes aka "appealing to demographics" is not new.
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Difference is though that usually, but not always, but most likely, that pensioners have paid into the system for 30-40 years before they receive these benefits.
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19-06-2017, 00:17
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Re: The 2017 General Election
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Difference is though that usually, but not always, but most likely, that pensioners have paid into the system for 30-40 years before they receive these benefits.
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That's not the reason that they get those benefits though - it's because they are active voters which until recently the young weren't.
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19-06-2017, 00:23
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Re: The 2017 General Election
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Who doesn't? The young don't have a monopoly on this! Pensioners have been handed free stuff eg free bus travel, free tv licences etc to secure their votes. Buying votes aka "appealing to demographics" is not new.
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I will "officially" retire in 5 years (at 66). Can I have a free TV license then Andrew?
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19-06-2017, 00:37
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Re: The 2017 General Election
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I will "officially" retire in 5 years (at 66). Can I have a free TV license then Andrew?
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If you spell it as the British do your case will be more convincing. 
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19-06-2017, 00:44
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Re: The 2017 General Election
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If you spell it as the British do your case will be more convincing. |
Just so that you can answer the question.
Can I have a free TV licence in 5 years when I retire????
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19-06-2017, 00:52
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Re: The 2017 General Election
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Just so that you can answer the question.
Can I have a free TV licence in 5 years when I retire????
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Who knows what the law will be in five years' time? Currently if you or a member of your household is 75 you will qualify for it.
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19-06-2017, 01:48
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Re: The 2017 General Election
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Who knows what the law will be in five years' time? Currently if you or a member of your household is 75 you will qualify for it.
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Ah, so your earlier post which stated (amongst other things) that pensioners get free TV licences was incorrect.
Glad to see you admit it when you are wrong!
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19-06-2017, 06:56
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Re: The 2017 General Election
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Difference is though that usually, but not always, but most likely, that pensioners have paid into the system for 30-40 years before they receive these benefits.
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And it would be pretty disappointing if the free stuff was taken away from them as they have earned it...
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If they keep doing this the electorate will not forget it or forgive them...
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19-06-2017, 09:34
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Re: The 2017 General Election
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Ah, so your earlier post which stated (amongst other things) that pensioners get free TV licences was incorrect.
Glad to see you admit it when you are wrong!
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Based on current life expectancies, most pensioners will qualify for a free TV licence during the course of their retirement.
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If they keep doing this the electorate will not forget it or forgive them...
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I do feel sorry for Theresa May. She's being stabbed in the back by some of the right,-wing of the party at the time of her greatest need. Not a job I'd wish on anyone.
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19-06-2017, 11:38
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Re: The 2017 General Election
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Based on current life expectancies, most pensioners will qualify for a free TV licence during the course of their retirement.
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I do feel sorry for Theresa May. She's being stabbed in the back by some of the right,-wing of the party at the time of her greatest need. Not a job I'd wish on anyone.
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I do feel sorry for Theresa May. She's being stabbed in the back by some of the right,-wing of the party at the time of her greatest need. Not a job I'd wish on anyone.
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l think the problem is to her MP's and the wider public is in these past few weeks she has been fatally damaged and as we know that perception is very hard to shift sadly for her.
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20-06-2017, 17:30
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Re: The 2017 General Election
DUP sources have let it be known that they are not happy with the way talks with the Conservatives on a possible “confidence and supply” deal are proceeding.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-politics-live
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20-06-2017, 17:36
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Re: The 2017 General Election
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another election coming sooner now
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