The 2017 General Election

[Osem]

It seems Farron might be in a bit of bother as Brian Paddick has resigned:

I've resigned as @LibDems Shadow Home Secretary over concerns about the leader's views on various issues that were highlighted during GE17.

https://order-order.com/2017/06/14/f...coup-underway/

[Julian]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40281300.
Farron has resigned

Yep, was just about to post the same link, Tim Farron has quit as Lib Dem leader.

Yup. Should have done better with the General Election although it's easy in retrospect to say they were wrong to focus on Brexit.

He never properly articulated how he resolved the conflict between his faith and his politics. Personally I think it's liberal to vote to extend the rights of others irrespective of your own faith, liberalism isn't about making everyone have the same views not imposing those views on others. There was a time when it would be considered wrong for an atheist to be the leader of one of the main parties, as that becomes less bizarre we shouldn't flip it around and make it hard for someone religion to be so.

But he kept dodging the question hoping it would go away and in the end people are entitled to object to that and use their vote accordingly.

[Osem]

Maybe they'll bring back Paddy Pants Down to restore a bit of pride in the party...

Jo Swinson probably, hope it isn't Cable.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Julian

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40281300.
Farron has resigned

No surprise there given his hypocritical stance on several things.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Damien

Yup. Should have done better with the General Election although it's easy in retrospect to say they were wrong to focus on Brexit.

He never properly articulated how he resolved the conflict between his faith and his politics. Personally I think it's liberal to vote to extend the rights of others irrespective of your own faith, liberalism isn't about making everyone have the same views not imposing those views on others. There was a time when it would be considered wrong for an atheist to be the leader of one of the main parties, as that becomes less bizarre we shouldn't flip it around and make it hard for someone religion to be so.

But he kept dodging the question hoping it would go away and in the end people are entitled to object to that and use their vote accordingly.

Agrred especially when they had Jeremy (bunny) Thorpe as leader in the 70's. He didn't want to force his views on anybody, just wanted all treated as equal no matter what sexual orientation etc. I still think he may have been the best leader they've had.

[Jimmy-J]

Originally Posted by pip08456

Agrred especially when they had Jeremy (bunny) Thorpe as leader in the 70's. He didn't want to force his views on anybody, just wanted all treated as equal no matter what sexual orientation etc. I still think he may have been the best leader they've had.

I remember the, "how do you get 3 liberals on a bar stool?" taunt.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Jimmy-J

I remember the, "how do you get 3 liberals on a bar stool?" taunt.

As do I but society was different then, thankfully we have evolved except for Faron it seems.

Although I'm "straight" I have many friends in the LGBT community and have for several years. I have no problem with them they are still my friends.

In fact the most recent one I met (about 5 yrs ago) who I still have a drink and a natter with was surprised when I answered his "You do realise I'm Gay" statement with "Are you a good person or not if so I don't give a ****!"

We've been good friends ever since.

I take people as I find them, not by their sexual orientation, that's none of my business.

Originally Posted by pip08456

As do I but society was different then, thankfully we have evolved except for Faron it seems.

Although I'm "straight" I have many friends in the LGBT community and have for several years. I have no problem with them they are still my friends.

In fact the most recent one I met (about 5 yrs ago) who I still have a drink and a natter with was surprised when I answered his "You do realise I'm Gay" statement with "Are you a good person or not if so I don't give a ****!"

We've been good friends ever since.

I take people as I find them, not by their sexual orientation, that's none of my business.

Absolutely.

People seem to confuse 'legal' with 'compulsory'...

We have lots of friends, gay and straight (single and married) - they're our friends because we like them and get on with them; their sexual orientation is irrelevant.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Absolutely.

We have lots of friends, gay and straight (single and married) - they're our friends because we like them and get on with them; their sexual orientation is irrelevant.

That's what makes the world turn around IMHO!

[Mr K]

Peterborough are well shot of their MP.....

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7790296.html

Outgoing Conservative MP Stewart Jackson has contacted a former constituent who had been critical of him on Facebook to call him a "thick chav" days after losing his Peterborough seat to Labour.

Mr Jackson, a prominent Brexiteer and ex-Parliamentary Private Secretary to David Davis, warned Christian Stanley, a businessman in his constituency, "If you print any **** about me on Facebook in the future you will regret it."

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Peterborough are well shot of their MP.....

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7790296.html

Aren't most thick chavs jobless, sounds like Mr Jackson has more in common with them than his ex constituent

[tweetiepooh]

Originally Posted by denphone

No surprise there given his hypocritical stance on several things.

That was my complaint with him. He should have stood firm on his beliefs and faith as they are similar to mine. He may have raised the ire of some but being open about them is better. Being overt in your faith lets people know where you stand clearly and many who would not agree with the position would support the man. Hypocrisy is a bigger turn-off than disagreement.