The 2017 General Election - Page 10

**Damien** · 09-06-2017, 07:24

And youth turnout is initially looking to be 72%!

09-06-2017, 07:26

Well the article 50 I read off the EU site seemed pretty clear that a hard exit is all that's on offer and I don't think this election was a judgement on hard brexit I think most people picked up on Theresa mays pathetically bad campaign. She allowed corbyn to get ahead and never really pinned him down on the costing of his manifesto it was the worst election campaign I can remember the torys doing. I doubt she will last three months and I'm starting to think this was deliberate on her part a way out without quitting.

1andrew1 · 09-06-2017, 07:41

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So is Ruth Davidson and David Davies or at least hinting at it.

I think the hard Brexit mandate isn't there. Labour support Brexit, it's happening, but I am less sure on the type of Brexit.

Agreed.Theresa Maybe PM was so keen to win over the Brextremists in her party and UKIP voters that she forget the 48%.
Younger voters who felt their futures damaged by the Brexit vote were better motivated to vote. Add in a manifesto that would only add up if they borrowed Diane Abbott's magic calculator, the multiple u-turns and daft vote-losing things like a free vote for fox-hunting and the surprise diminishes.

ianch99 · 09-06-2017, 08:00

Well done Mick for predicting a Hung Parliament!

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Agreed.Theresa Maybe PM was so keen to win over the Brextremists in her party and UKIP voters that she forget the 48%.
Younger voters who felt their futures damaged by the Brexit vote were better motivated to vote. Add in a manifesto that would only add up if they borrowed Diane Abbott's magic calculator, the multiple u-turns and daft vote-losing things like a free vote for fox-hunting and the surprise diminishes.

Her arrogance was/is her downfall. She went to the country for political reasons and has lost her gamble.

Her attempt to force a Hard Brexit on the country has clearly failed. The Tories need to reconsider their priorities ..

Ken W · 09-06-2017, 08:05

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Well done Mick for predicting a Hung Parliament!

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Her arrogance was/is her downfall. She went to the country for political reasons and has lost her gamble.

Her attempt to force a Hard Brexit on the country has clearly failed. The Tories need to reconsider their priorities ..

I fully agree, Teresa May was so arrogant thinking that she would get a larger majority, she was wrong.

denphone · 09-06-2017, 08:21

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I fully agree, Teresa May was so arrogant thinking that she would get a larger majority, she was wrong.

She took the electorate for fools and that is a very dangerous thing to do IMO.

**Mick** · 09-06-2017, 09:06

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Well done Mick for predicting a Hung Parliament!

Thanks.

Latest: May has no intention of resigning.

DUP have 10 seats. They could help Tories. They have already said they would not help Labour because of Corbyns past links to IRA.

**Hugh** · 09-06-2017, 09:22

Good to see the young vote getting out - participation is important.

They made a huge difference in our constituency, taking it from the Lib Dems (Greg was a good local MP).

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.u...ntry-1-8583558

UKIP down to 1.9% of the vote, just above the Greens.

**Damien** · 09-06-2017, 09:30

Is this the biggest political mistake in modern (i.e since the way) political history? I know Ted Heath did the same thing but his position was never as strong as May's was just weeks ago.

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Thanks.

From now on we put money on Mick's political predictions.

**Maggy** · 09-06-2017, 09:31

Well looking at the CF exit poll makes me think we are a reflection of the country at large after all.

Ken W · 09-06-2017, 09:52

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Thanks.

Latest: May has no intention of resigning.

That means she will resign in a few weeks!

**Damien** · 09-06-2017, 09:55

Also issuing Article 50 when she did looks pretty stupid now

denphone · 09-06-2017, 10:03

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That means she will resign in a few weeks!

To be replaced by whom?.

bubblegun · 09-06-2017, 10:06

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Thanks.

Latest: May has no intention of resigning.

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That means she will resign in a few weeks!

She has a news conference later this morning...

Didn't Cameron have this, then he resigned?

Boris was already sharpening his knives after the exit poll last night.

pip08456 · 09-06-2017, 10:49

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Good to see the young vote getting out - participation is important.

They made a huge difference in our constituency, taking it from the Lib Dems (Greg was a good local MP).

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.u...ntry-1-8583558

UKIP down to 1.9% of the vote, just above the Greens.

I agree in that it is good to see them participate but I think it only happened because of the promise of tuition fees being scrapped.

Now because Labour hasn't got in and that expectation will not be met I worry that they will now turn around and think voting is pointless.

The biggest parts of Labour's manifesto appears to be nothing more than a blatant attempt to bribe the electorate. It didn't work as well as the party expected though.