U.S President: Donald Trump

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Damien

The questioner is referring to the Attorney General or Department of Justice and if they can halt it. Since the accusation here is that it was the White House it doesn't contradict that statement so he won't get in trouble about being under oath.

Either way we'll see if Corney has anything more substantive to the accusation next week.

that's very liberal of you to forgive a lie under oath ,one assumes it is of course a one sided event and no forgiveness would be afforded to the accused your honor .

Originally Posted by Damien

The questioner is referring to the Attorney General or Department of Justice and if they can halt it. Since the accusation here is that it was the White House it doesn't contradict that statement so he won't get in trouble about being under oath.

Either way we'll see if Corney has anything more substantive to the accusation next week.

Sorry but I disagree. Comey specifically says, 'I'm talking about a sitiuation where the FBI is told to stop doing something, for political reasons, that would be a very big deal, it's not happened in my experience.'

No where in that sentence does he say, 'It's not happened in my experience, but saying that, the President of the United States did ask me to halt it.'

Comey saying in his testimony that it's a big deal to be told to stop an FBI investigation, that he should not have said under Oath, that it has not happened in his experience, he said it twice.

No one has seen this memo, it was dictated down the phone to the New York Times reporter by an anonymous source. Too convenient in my book.

Lots of lawyers and Attorneys backing Trump on this one.

For Comey to come out now and be asked, did the President of the United States, tell you to end Flynn investigation? And he says, yes, as an investigation committee member, I would be referring to his May 3rd testimony and say, 'So, Mr Comey, did you tell a lie, under oath, that in your experience, being told to stop an investigation for political reasons never happened and when you made that statement, again under oath, if it was such a big deal for the FBI to be told to stop an investigation, surely it's an even bigger deal, that an instruction is passed to you by the President of the United States?'

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

that's very liberal of you to forgive a lie under oath ,one assumes it is of course a one sided event and no forgiveness would be afforded to the accused your honor .

Damien has not said that he lied under oath and forgives him. #strawman

[1andrew1]

Well, that worked out well didn't it?

President Trump told Russians 'firing nut job Comey relieved pressure'
Donald Trump told Russian diplomats firing "nut job" FBI director James Comey relieved "great pressure", The New York Times reports.
The paper said the comments came from the White House's written account of the Oval Office meeting.
One official had read quotations to the Times and another had confirmed the broad outlines of the discussion.
The report quotes Mr Trump as calling ousted FBI director James Comey "crazy" and "a real nut job".
It says the President then told Russia's foreign minister and ambassador that he "faced great pressure because of Russia. That's taken off".
Mr Trump met with the Russians on 10 May - the day after Mr Comey was fired.

http://news.sky.com/story/president-...ssure-10884848

But it will be interesting to hear Coney's testimony

Trump arrives in Saudi Arabia as Comey agrees to testify

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Well, that worked out well didn't it?


http://news.sky.com/story/president-...ssure-10884848

But it will be interesting to hear Coney's testimony

Trump arrives in Saudi Arabia as Comey agrees to testify

the testimony of a bitter ex employee who's career is in the toilet

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Well, that worked out well didn't it?


http://news.sky.com/story/president-...ssure-10884848

But it will be interesting to hear Coney's testimony

Trump arrives in Saudi Arabia as Comey agrees to testify

Oh look another story sourced by the New York Times from a Anonymous American official thats apparently been dictated and then confirmed by another anonymous official. FFS wake up.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mick

Oh look another story sourced by the New York Times from a Anonymous American official thats apparently been dictated and then confirmed by another anonymous official. FFS wake up.

The fact that's its reported globally suggests the likelihood of the New York Times making it up is slim. It's not InfoWars or something. Like it or loathe it, it's an authoritative source holding those in priviliged positions of power to account.

I think it's a pile of crap, so does my anonymous friend, who wants to stay annonymous because his anonymous friend confirmed it with me, that he does.

Worth remembering it was the New York Times that broke the Clinton e-mail story. Anonymous sources are normal in journalism as well, without them watergate wouldn't have been revealed. It's much harder to expose corruption if the person speaking out has to be named. We don't know the name of the person who revealed the expenses scandal
Here either. Those who want to suppress anonymous sources are helping the powerful avoid being held to account.

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Also when asked the White House didn't deny it but said it was pressure put on by Corney by his grandstanding rather than the investigation itself.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mick

I think it's a pile of crap, so does my anonymous friend, who wants to stay annonymous because his anonymous friend confirmed it with me, that he does.

I get that you think that but this is how journalism which keeps the elites like Trump and Clinton in check works.

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Like it or loathe it, it's an authoritative source holding those in priviliged positions of power to account.

It's a news source with links to the Bilderberg group who has hidden the Bilderberg's anti Sovereign state, globalist views from it's audience. That stance alone makes it anti Trump.


Trump may be guilty of collusion, or not; I don't know. But regarding the NY Times as an unbiased source is simply crazy, and shows that no research has been done regarding any agenda that they may be pushing

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by passingbat

It's a news source with links to the Bilderberg group who has hidden the Bilderberg's anti Sovereign state, globalist views from it's audience. That stance alone makes it anti Trump.

Trump may be guilty of collusion, or not; I don't know. But regarding the NY Times as an unbiased source is simply crazy, and shows that no research has been done regarding any agenda that they may be pushing

That's a straw man argument, no one is claiming any sources are unbiased.

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

That's a straw man argument, no one is claiming any sources are unbiased.

No, it was an understand where sources are coming from, agenda wise, argument.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by passingbat

No, it was an understand where sources are coming from, agenda wise, argument.

You state "But regarding the NY Times as an unbiased source is simply crazy" but no one has said it is unbiased.

It is an authoritative source and has been going since 1851. It is known as a paper of record.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/The-New-York-Times

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

That's a straw man argument, no one is claiming any sources are unbiased.

NYT and Washington Post have shown they have a complete axe to grind with Trump, so much so that even most of those who can't stand Trump even see the obsessive behaviour. I read the NYT article but I always read comments section and there was few calling out BS and that they needed to start naming sources, far too easy to concoct a story from thin air and claim it's from an anonymous source.

It was so corny that these two liberal news outlets both posted a story at the time Trump boarded Air Force one.