U.S President: Donald Trump

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by Mr K

(ps. where have 'the children' gone, it's no fun anylonger )

Oh, your posts provide enough fun for all of us, though maybe not in the way you expect?

[Mr K]

Donald Trump's response to Syria gas attack: blame Obama

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...foreign-policy

The same Obama that wasn't born in the US and tapped his phones ?

Originally Posted by Mr K

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...foreign-policy

The same Obama that wasn't born in the US and tapped his phones ?

Ah, those while 'Obama isn't a US citizen claims' that the Democratic party also used and took advantage of, when Hillary Clinton was up against Obama, when he was running for president... pre-2008-2009 era.

As for tapping, Trump team was put under surveillance, google 'Susan Rice Trump', this is still being investigated and it appears more likely they were and I believe they were given that Obama Administration has form when it comes to spying on folk, even their own friends, ask France, ask UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon, ask German chancellor, Angela Merkel.

Originally Posted by Mick

Ah, those while 'Obama isn't a US citizen claims' that the Democratic party also used and took advantage of, when Hillary Clinton was up against Obama, when he was running for president... pre-2008-2009 era.

As for tapping, Trump team was put under surveillance, google 'Susan Rice Trump', this is still being investigated and it appears more likely they were and I believe they were given that Obama Administration has form when it comes to spying on folk, even their own friends, ask France, ask UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon, ask German chancellor, Angela Merkel.

He's very quick to slag of the previous administration but doesn't seem to have much to offer as an alternative

Originally Posted by martyh

He's very quick to slag of the previous administration but doesn't seem to have much to offer as an alternative

I'm quick to slag off the previous administration, Obama was a crap President, along with his previous Secretary of State, we have them to thank for the troubles in Syria and be it the Middle East, today.

Originally Posted by Mick

I'm quick to slag off the previous administration, Obama was a crap President, along with his previous Secretary of State, we have them to thank for the troubles in Syria and be it the Middle East, today.

So what is Trump going to different then ,he's already ruled out attacking Siria

[adzii_nufc]

Obama's approval rating and God like status really did overshadow some of the most devastating revelations of his tenure as president. Stuff that Trump or Clinton's administration's would've been vilified for.

None of those candidates would've survived the NSA scandal, the Russian nuclear treaty botch and the bogus civilian drone numbers situation the way the Obama administration sailed through them.

His past administration have been leaking classified information to smear Trump. Something that's going to see a lot of people go to jail. Despite this it's still failed to make mainstream news and in the eyes of many they've done nothing wrong. Would be ok if they hadn't set about a witch hunt on the likes of Snowden for the same thing.

Originally Posted by adzii_nufc

Obama's approval rating and God like status really did overshadow some of the most devastating revelations of his tenure as president. Stuff that Trump or Clinton's administration's would've been vilified for.

None of those candidates would've survived the NSA scandal, the Russian nuclear treaty botch and the bogus civilian drone numbers situation the way the Obama administration sailed through them.

His past administration have been leaking classified information to smear Trump. Something that's going to see a lot of people go to jail. Despite this it's still failed to make mainstream news and in the eyes of many they've done nothing wrong. Would be ok if they hadn't set about a witch hunt on the likes of Snowden for the same thing.

It is totally irrelevant what Obama did or didn't do ,Trump is in power now and Trump needs to start having some results instead of blaming past administrations.It is reprehensible that Trump saw the gassing of civilians in Syria as an opportunity for some political point scoring .

This is what Trump twitted in 2013 following the gas attack

We should stay the hell out of Syria, the "rebels" are just as bad as the current regime. WHAT WILL WE GET FOR OUR LIVES AND $ BILLIONS?ZERO
1:33 AM - 16 Jun 2013

President Obama, do not attack Syria. There is no upside and tremendous downside. Save your "powder" for another (and more important) day!
2:21 PM - 7 Sep 2013

http://www.npr.org/2017/04/04/522627...trump-on-syria

The list of tweets from trump goes on and on and on ad nauseum and every single one is telling Obama to stay away from Syria but now he is criticising him for doing just that ,............Hypocrite

Originally Posted by martyh

So what is Trump going to different then ,he's already ruled out attacking Siria

Not quite, he has actually said today when he was asked, 'We'll see'. One thing Trump has said is that any action he takes he will not necessarily announce, he was heavily critical of the prior Administration announcing they were going to go in to Mosul to destroy ISIS leaders, three months prior to attacking there, giving them ample opportunity to flee.

Originally Posted by Mick

Not quite, he has actually said today when he was asked, 'We'll see'. One thing Trump has said is that any action he takes he will not necessarily announce, he was heavily critical of the prior Administration announcing they were going to go in to Mosul to destroy ISIS leaders, three months prior to attacking there, giving them ample opportunity to flee.

He's been very adamant over the last few years that Obama should "stay the hell out of Syria" it's all over twitter so it must be true

Originally Posted by martyh

but now he is criticising him for doing just that ,............Hypocrite

When ? Which of Trump tweets, are criticizing him for 'not' doing anything in Syria. I can find none he has posted of late ? Or are you just making stuff up as usual ?

Originally Posted by Mr K

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...foreign-policy

The same Obama that wasn't born in the US and tapped his phones ?

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/04/u...bama.html?_r=0

Donald J Trump
@realDonaldTrump

The only reason President Obama wants to attack Syria is to save face over his very dumb RED LINE statement. Do NOT attack Syria,fix U.S.A.

12.13 PM - 5th September 2013

In a May 2016 interview on MSNBC, Mr. Trump said the United States had “bigger problems than Assad.” He added, “I would have stayed out of Syria and wouldn’t have fought so much for Assad, against Assad.”

So emphatic was Mr. Trump’s stance on Syria that he disavowed the stance of his own running mate. After the October 2016 vice-presidential debate, when Mike Pence, then governor of Indiana, backed strikes against Mr. Assad, Mr. Trump stated, “I disagree.”

Originally Posted by Mick

When ? Which of Trump tweets, are criticizing him for 'not' doing anything in Syria. I can find none he has posted of late ? Or are you just making stuff up as usual ?

I didn't say Trump had tweeted criticism of obama for not doing anything in Syria ,Trump has repeatedly told Obama to stay away from Syria but then criticizes Obama (Mr k's link)

Originally Posted by martyh

I didn't say Trump had tweeted criticism of obama for not doing anything in Syria ,Trump has repeatedly told Obama to stay away from Syria but then criticizes Obama (Mr k's link)

Mr K's link which just happens to be a questionable, one sided, Anti-Trump, Anti-Brexit source in my eyes, which I have no intention of reading.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mick

Mr K's link which just happens to be a questionable, one sided, Anti-Trump, Anti-Brexit source in my eyes, which I have no intention of reading.

What about Hugh's link though?

Originally Posted by Hugh

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/04/u...bama.html?_r=0